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read this http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/protein lentil and quinoa are complete... and go for soy or pea protein

yes it is compared to meat or soy actually I think it is rational to compare with meat, cause it is muscle tissue like ours... so to build muscle you have to eat something that builds the muscle If I had the money I would buy the soy, but it has double price compared to whear protein isolate from UN

great shape! really inspiring, nice to see vegans with big mass.

"If that limiting amino is half what it should be" - it is compared to meat whey or soy protein

In Israel there is or soy or wheat... (new product) the wheat comes with digestive enzimes so I think it will be close to soy... I know about lysine... but I don't think it's a big issue... cause the ratio instead of 1:1 is 1:2, not that bad for a portion of 20 g of protein... The main reason i bought it - is cause it was very cheap... for the money cost 1kg of soy, i bought 2.8kg of wheat

They add BCAA's and glutamine? cause the profile looks strange for only wheat... is wheat that rich in glutamine ? http://distributors.ultimatenutrition.com/pdf/781_WheatPro_snf.pdf

Some one tried it?

I want to buy Creatine Monohydrate from ultimate nutrition I live in Israel, I can't order from abroad

Cause it's look like it's source is in muscle tissue

pale = weak? or skin color? how about legumes? grains?

I don't understand why grains and legumes complete each other into complete protein... I think it's more like a myth... If we take soy or beaf as an example for complete protein for exapmle you can see the ratio here http://i20.fastpic.ru/big/2011/0517/f5/71aec2927ba29994d022b68e847949f5.png In the plant based foods the problem is Lysine... so in animal products we can see ratio up to 1.1:1 for Lysine compared to other essential amino acids so lets look on grains that have how the myth say, defficency in one or more essential amino acid http://i11.fastpic.ru/big/2011/0517/d3/1933c5d818adf3e712b648dfbeaebcd3.png and we can see its true, Laysine is a problem there, with bad ratio of 1:2 for others agains Lysine so yo would expect that legumes would have 2:1 ratio to complete it top the quality of meat or soy but when we look at lagumes http://i11.fastpic.ru/big/2011/0517/5b/37f877438af95896fcd08b7a8331c05b.png we see the best ratio is 1:1 So the story of completion grains with lagumes to "complete protein" as meat or soy, is not more than myth... What do you think about my little research? you can see the tables here http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/protein or get it by yourself here http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl

Don't cut that much your callory intake , eat normally just about RMR*1.15 + what you burn at workout + 200 RMR = 9.99w + 6.25s - 4.92a + 166g-161 w = weight in kilograms; if you know your weight in pounds, divide by 2.2 to get your weight in kilograms s = height in centimeters; if you know your height in inches, multiply by 2.54 to get your height in centimeters a = age in years g = gender = 1 for males, 0 for females You need to build some muscule, and that you can do a "cut" with negative calorie intake + cardio --- I'm not pro so... just my opinion P.s. in the second picture you look very very skinny, you should gain weight, it not looks so healthy... I would say you have about 12% fat maybe less.

wtf, you are spam bot or what ? viewtopic.php?f=47&t=23941

Welcome man, actually one of the reasons I love sport is cause I'm proving others every time they wrong =-) One of the reasons why I went vegetarian and than vegan at first time was because i was cureus how it feels and how I will servive ... Serviving good for 4.5 years now, training 6 day a week !

You lost weight cause your calorie intake was inadequate... add natural(not friyed) nuts and seeds, like Walnuts Almonds Cashews Pecans Brazil Nuts or even Macadamia Nuts if you can affort it... peanuts very good, I eat 100% natural peanut butter every day... make sure you buy 100% peanut butter, cause a lot of skippy have a lot of sugar and bad fats added. -- whole bread very good with the peanut butter... --- This is how I maintain my weight... You can be on a low calories diet, and loose weight, or you can eat a lot of junk and become fat... There is no connection to the fact your vegan or not - all about numbers and calories