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  1. Obviously it depends on the level of addiction, but cleaning up can be a consequence rather than an aim. If someone has other good habits, like some kind of exercise routine (especially if it's holistic, like internal martial arts), eats good food, etc then taking in toxins will just naturally seem to no longer fit their personality. It also depends whether it's a really heavy physical addiction to one or more substances (e.g. heroin) or more of a non-specific addiction to getting intoxicated in some way or another. I was very into drinking, smoking, regular casual drug use (LSD, amphetamines, cannabis) and that's how I got out of it, not by any kind of will-power.
  2. Quite brave for a first post. Is he talking about Daoist exercises?
  3. Of course vegans aren't argumentative! How dare you say such a thing? I've never heard such a load of old nonsense in all my days... etc etc
  4. I don't think taking the drugs stops people from being infectious. All they even claim to do is delay onset of the symptoms. I find it incredible that anyone would risk having unsafe sex in any circumstances - there are plenty of other infections around, some of them very nasty, like syphilis which I believe is increasing at the moment. I don't trust conspiracy theorists but I really don't trust the pharmaceutical industry and their publicity machine (governments and doctors) either. Speaking for myself, I don't have enough knowledge to decided which theory of AIDS is correct. But the apparent authority of the 'official theory', or the romance of conspiracy theory, are not meaningful factors in deciding what is true. I suspect there is some truth in what Thabo Mbeki has said. Could it not be that the virus is one causal factor but that there are other factors, i.e. poverty and compromised immune systems, that allow it to spread so virulently?
  5. Apparently 50 bibles are sold each minute across the world...I wonder where the money goes... If the author's still alive, shouldn't He get some royalties?
  6. Violet, well done for posting the links to those pictures. It's too easy to get sidetracked in an abstract argument and forget what we're actually talking about. Madcat, that 'conspiracy' website looks really dodgy, stuff about 'communists' and 'homosexuals'. As for the virus theory, though... the drug companies do make a lot of money from those drugs... and I don't see how the scale of the African epidemic can be explained unless there's other factors involved apart from virus transmission.
  7. The Old Testament does not mention Jesus. There are some verses that have been interpreted by Christians as predicting Jesus. There were certainly messianic expectations in late ancient Judaism, but I'm not sure they go back as far as the period of canonical writing. Why would they have needed a messiah when they had the presence of YHVH, which, by definition, covers the period up to the last of the prophetic writers? Jay, I think there are some contemporary mentions in the Talmud, cited by Urbach in The Sages and Segal in Two Powers in Heaven. The existence of a historical messianic claimant called Joshua has nothing to do, however, with the metaphysical status of the mythical figurehead of a world-conquering fascistic empire.
  8. I had no idea all this was going on while I was whiling away the hours over in veganfitness.net! Some of you come across as very different here from what you do on veganfitness. I'm afraid I've only skimmed this topic, but I think I get the idea. I find it amusing in a way. Maybe I'm a bit of a phlegmatic Geordie; I find it a bit of a strain to put on an air of high-flown sincerity. When you read a text, you interpret it. This is obviously the case because we have seen different interpretations of the Bible in this topic. Interpreting the Bible you start with the proposition, 'God is good'. Therefore what God says in the Bible is good. Therefore you interpret the Bible according to what you think is good, because the meaning of what God said must be good, because God is good. So why not just think that what you think is good is good anyway, without going through the medium of the Bible?
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