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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:44 am 
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Hey guys,

what's your view on wearing wool? I went shopping yesterday and realised that most warm clothes are all made with wool. Can a vegan be flexible on this one or avoid it? Personally, I think wool is different compared to leather but I don't know enough about wool farms or anything like that. I still own some wool clothes which I'll probably still wear. Also, I remembered I bought a wool scarf while in Iceland and that got me thinking: can people who live in such cold countries really afford not to wear wool?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:59 am 
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I do not wear wool. It is part of the animal industry which kills and exploits animals.
There are many wool alternatives for warm clothing...

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:00 am 
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I avoid it when possible. But I also have a wool suit that I bought used because I couldn't find a suit that fit at any stores around here, that wasn't made out of wool and that I could afford


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:11 am 
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EDIT: Are you sure there it's all wool man? Lots of stuff can look like wool, and I have assumed lots of things to be wool in the past, but it's really synthetic. Did you check the label? I have some nice big thick jumpers and stuff which aren't wool. Here's a photo from a few years ago, where I am wearing a nice warm motherfuckin jumper of some kind, but I still have it, and it's definitely not wool :D :

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I don't buy wool. The primary problem that I have with wool is that you have to keep the animals in captivity, which is bogus. Some farms will be better than others, but really, the animals are not there for their own good, they are being exploited. Those particular animals can not be released into the wild because they are domesticated/slaves, and they have been specially bred to create more wool, which in the wild would be inconvenient for them. However, those animals should not exist in the first place, and the farms should not exist.

The actual process of getting the wool can be uncomfortable and painful, but if it's done right, it won't cause pain because there are no nerves in the wool. However, if someone grabbed you and restrained you and shaved your head whenever they felt like it, that's still bogus right? It's none of their business to interfere with animals, in my opinion.

Wool is more expensive than the equiv man-made materials. If for some reason shops in your area don't sell any warm clothing unless its animal based, perhaps you could wear more layers of thin man-made clothing to compensate. Like wear a vest + tshirt + long-sleeve T + shirt? You'd be warm then.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:33 am 
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Buy synthetic fleece items, they are very popular, cheap and easy to find.

Don't forget that people eat lambs! The lambs come straight from the wool farms!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:09 am 
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Hi Cristian,

I want you to view this footage so you can educate yourself on the issue of wool (since you said that you werent too informed on that particular industry). After you view it, decide for yourself if you feel comfortable supporting the wool industry.

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=wool

I encourage anybody else who has even the SLIGHTEST uncertainty about the cruelty of wool to view this. Wool is 100% hell for the animals. For some reason, people think that wool "isnt so bad", that it is like a little hair cut for sheep, but this perception is utterly fallacious!

I would like to hear your thoughts if you wouldnt mind posting them.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:42 pm 
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I snowboard and hang in freezing temperatures all the time and I do not wear wool.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:12 pm 
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I live in freakin Canada which can get to Arctic temperatures and I dont wear any animal products to keep me warm. Synthetics work just fine.

Of course, the damn weather here is like 10 degress hotter than it is supposed to be for Novermber because of damn gloabl warming.

Poor polar bears - their ice floes are melting and they are starving to death, among other animals that are paying the price for our relentless consumption of fossil fuels among other things. :cry:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:17 pm 
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Thanks guys and thanks CG for the link; it was really educating. I won't buy any wool products for sure, I just wanted to know your views.
It's just sad too see that the majority of jumpers etc on sale where wool ones.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:22 pm 
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Cristian wrote:
Thanks guys and thanks CG for the link; it was really educating. I won't buy any wool products for sure, I just wanted to know your views.
It's just sad too see that the majority of jumpers etc on sale where wool ones.


The lil sheep say "thank-you Cristian". :D


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:39 pm 
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compassionategirl wrote:
I want you to view this footage so you can educate yourself on the issue of wool (since you said that you werent too informed on that particular industry). After you view it, decide for yourself if you feel comfortable supporting the wool industry.

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=wool

Well, I just found out I wasn't too informed on the wool industry. I knew it was probably bad, but I didn't know it was that bad. :(


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:43 pm 
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Michelle wrote:
compassionategirl wrote:
I want you to view this footage so you can educate yourself on the issue of wool (since you said that you werent too informed on that particular industry). After you view it, decide for yourself if you feel comfortable supporting the wool industry.

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=wool

Well, I just found out I wasn't too informed on the wool industry. I knew it was probably bad, but I didn't know it was that bad. :(


Thanks for viewing it Michelle. The sheep thank-you too for not turning a blind eye to their suffering. :D


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:01 am 
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Wool itches.

At least it doesn't look totally gross like down though. Still, no wool.

Although If it didn't itch me I'd be down with used wool. Like thrift store? Yeah I'm down with that. Used over new for me. Financial concerns too ;)


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:25 am 
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Aaron wrote:
Wool itches.

At least it doesn't look totally gross like down though. Still, no wool.

Although If it didn't itch me I'd be down with used wool. Like thrift store? Yeah I'm down with that. Used over new for me. Financial concerns too ;)


So let me make sure I understand you correctly: you would buy and wear "used" wool if it wasnt itchy? :?

I dont understand why any vegan would be "down" with wool. Did you not view the link? How can anybody, let alone a vegan, be down with the abhorrent practies of the wool industry? There is nothing kind about wool. So why would you buy it, whether new or used? :?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:59 am 
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I'd like to bring the utilitarian argument back in. In my opinion Vegans shouldn't buy new wool items, but if you have them its better to wear them than to just toss them out and buy new stuff, especially if you don't have the extra money. One step at a time, ya'll :D


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