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Some see this as a potential test of faith to see if some folks will be lured away from Him by this science. As long as this argument can be made, then scientific evidence can't prove there is no god.


Speaking of that, have you heard of the Flat Earth Society? They believe that the devil has fooled people into believing the Earth is round.

"The last world model propagated by the Flat Earth Society holds that we live on a disc, with the North Pole at its center and a 150 feet high wall of ice at the outer edge. Curiously, the resulting map is basically the symbol of the United Nations, something Johnson used as evidence for his position. In this model, the sun and moon are each a mere 32 miles in diameter." -Quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society


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I agree! I love "The Elegant Universe" & other specials & books that are similar. I have difficulty wrapping my mind around some of the concepts, but it's fun to try. Like all times existing simultaneously -- ???? Is it even possible, given our linear perspective, to really grasp that? I wish I was more fluent in the language of math. --sigh


Awesome! Brian Greene and Stephen Hawking are two of my favorite writers. Multiverse theory is fun to study too.

I wish I was more fluent in math as well. I only took a couple of semesters or calculus in college so I can't do calculations beyond elementary physics :(


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Ever heard of the religion with the "Hollow Earth" theory? That we live in the inside of the earth...its interesting...

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http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/holearth.html

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Ever heard of the religion with the "Hollow Earth" theory? That we live in the inside of the earth...its interesting...

http://koreshan.mwweb.org/
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/holearth.html


:lol:

I can't believe I've been going through life thinking that there was a solid layer of magma, rocks, and metals under the surface of the Earth. The devil must have fooled me :)


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If there were really giant holes at the north and south poll wouldn’t they have been explored?


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If there were really giant holes at the north and south poll wouldn’t they have been explored?


Yeah, but the government covered up the evidence :)


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Agnosticism is the belife that nothing is known or can be known about non-material phenomena.

Some agnostics believe that the truth about supernatural forces or beings can be known, but we just haven't discovered the answers yet.

Well, I'm just a plan old unmodified agnostic.

There are also people who call themselves vegans, but believe it's fine to exploit animals. People are always fashioning sloppy versions of a system of ideas or ideals and trying to play it off as the real thing. :roll:

@Sknydpr, theism is the "belief in the existence of a god or gods." It doesn't mean religion. It just happens that people who believe in a god or gods tend to be religious, but the doesn't mean all religions are theist. Just like all women are humans doesn't mean all humans are women.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:48 pm 
Oh, I guess I should post something on topic.

How's my love life?

I love my life. Thanks for asking.

In fact, I try to love all life. But I find it is most important to have respect and reverence for life. (Better than reverence for the dead. It's a bit late for love or reverence at that point.)


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In fact, I try to love all life. But I find it is most important to have respect and reverence for life.


indeed. :D 8)


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Well, I'm just a plan old unmodified agnostic.


But do you believe that the truth about whether god exists or not can be discoverd through science, or that science will never advance enough to discover the truth about the existence of gods? Do you think it is important to seek and discover whether gods exist, or is the existence or lack of existence of gods irrelevant to life on Earth? etc... There is a wide variation of belief among agnostics. The reason people use terms like "weak agnostic" or "strong agnostic" is to communicate to other people (particularly other agnostics) more specific opinions and views on the nature of the universe

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