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"If you live to be a hundred then I want to live to be a hundred minus one day because I never want to live without you."
--Winnie the Pooh

This sums up my feelings for my husband. My love, devotion & passion for him provide me endless joy. I cannot imagine my life without him. Our individual traits, quirks & personalities are perfectly compatible or complementary. We will be married 19 years in January.

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CrispyQ wrote:
"If you live to be a hundred then I want to live to be a hundred minus one day because I never want to live without you."
--Winnie the Pooh

This sums up my feelings for my husband. My love, devotion & passion for him provide me endless joy. I cannot imagine my life without him. Our individual traits, quirks & personalities are perfectly compatible or complementary. We will be married 19 years in January.


Awe...that's so sweet. I love Pooh Bear. Congratulations on almost 19 years!


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kollision wrote:
Also, what are your expectations? Do they need to be a certain race, have a certain body, etc.?


Okay back on topic!

My criteria for looks are as follows:

must be female...


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Michelle,

Well, if you have a crush on somebody here, then you havent made it obvious at all -- I have NO IDEA which board member could be the object of your crush. You have done a good job keeping you crush under wraps!

unlike me i might add


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:D At first I thought you might have missed some criteria Richard....the list seems "small" - so, I referenced my mental log and it appears you have included it all. Fine job.

For myself. Basically. I like vegan, nonsubstance-abusing, agnostic/atheist, creative nerds. I love them! Everything else is pretty irrelevant - especially ethnicity and appearance.

Oh, and, of course, have to accept and embrace my kiddos.

oh yeah. i don't swear like a sailor but i guess i could be considered offensive so the person would have to be somewhat tolerant of that.

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wow, 8 pages already. And a lot about drinking, drugs and caffeine. Those things aren't even that important. The important thing is respect. If you don't respect your bitch the relationship is going nowhere.

Also, I believe everything is okey as long as you don't hurt anyone else while doing it(smoking, being not vegan). Sure alcohol and drugs are bad for you, but so is water(if you drink 6 liters at once). And sure alcohol and drugs are addictive, but so is sleeping.


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veganmadre wrote:
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Oh, and, of course, have to accept and embrace my kiddos.



Your daughters, Tiff, are such sweet, compassionate kids that it wouldnt be hard for any non-family member to fall in love with them.

I am always so amazed and moved by compassionte children. It gives me goosebumps to visualize the compassionate and passionate adults they will grow up to me, and that is truly very heartening ...


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Ah!!! I found this list I made up! Little detailed, yeah. :P

Independent
Vegan
Artistic (in any capacity)
Expressive and Open
Liberal - not opposed to anarchist thought
Agnostic - or at least not practicing a religion
Gentle
Humble
Compassionate
Nonjudgemental
Thoughtful
Nerdy
Free-spirited (within bounds)
Substance Free

ha! wow. that about does it. :lol:

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kollision wrote:
Atheist Jew? Hows that?


My wife is Jewish so I've talked about this with her before. A good percentage of Israelis now are atheist Jews. For them, being Jewish is more about family history/heritage and tradition than about spirituality.


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Strong agnosticism (also called hard agnosticism, closed agnosticism, strict agnosticism)—the view that the question of the existence of deities is unknowable by nature or that human beings are ill-equipped to judge the evidence.
Weak agnosticism (also called soft agnosticism, open agnosticism, empirical agnosticism)—the view that the existence or nonexistence of God or gods is currently unknown but isn't necessarily unknowable, therefore one will withhold judgement until more evidence is available.
Apatheism—the view that the whole question of God's existence or nonexistence is beneath consideration or concern.
Apathetic agnosticism—the view that the whole question of God's existence or nonexistence cannot yet be properly answered, and therefore one should free oneself from a fruitless search.
Ignosticism—the view that the concept of God as a being is meaningless because it has no verifiable consequences, therefore it cannot be usefully discussed as having existence or nonexistence. See scientific method.
Model agnosticism—the view that philosophical and metaphysical questions are not ultimately verifiable but that a model of malleable assumption should be built upon rational thought. Note that this branch of agnosticism differs from others in that it does not focus upon the question of a deity's existence.
Agnostic theism—the view of those who do not claim to know God's existence, but still believe in his existence. (See Knowledge Vs Beliefs) Whether this is truly agnosticism is disputed. It might also imply the belief that there is something resembling god (or gods,) but a doubt of their exact nature or validity of claim.
Agnostic spiritualism—the view that there may or may not be a god (or gods,) while maintaining a general personal belief in a spiritual aspect of reality, particularly without distinct religious basis, or adherence to any doctrine.
Agnostic atheism—the view that God may or may not exist, but that his non-existence is more likely. Some agnostic atheists would at least partially base their beliefs on Occam's Razor.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic


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Daniel wrote:
Agnosticism is the belife that nothing is known or can be known about non-material phenomena.


Some agnostics believe that the truth about supernatural forces or beings can be known, but we just haven't discovered the answers yet.


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Strong agnosticism (also called hard agnosticism, closed agnosticism, strict agnosticism)—the view that the question of the existence of deities is unknowable by nature or that human beings are ill-equipped to judge the evidence.

Agnostic atheism—the view that God may or may not exist, but that his non-existence is more likely. Some agnostic atheists would at least partially base their beliefs on Occam's Razor.

Interesting. I guess I am a strong agnostic. I am also an atheist. But the definition of agnostic atheist doesn't really fit, probably largely because it doesn't include the strong agnostic definition in it.

I see a strong distinction between knowledge and belief. That's how I can believe that humans cannot know whether or not there are any gods, yet hold a strong belief that there are none.

Oh, I also believe that everyone is either a theist or an atheist and that there is no inbetween position. That is because the definition of atheist is really simply "not theist." If you have one word that means "X" and one word that means "not X" then the two terms are exhaustive, because if one is not "X" then one is by definition "not X" and vice versa; one cannot be not "X" and not "not X" simultaneously. Of course, this all hinges on acceptance of the definition of atheist being "not theist" which is not universally accepted. But that's the way I use it.

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FormicaLinoleum wrote:
Interesting. I guess I am a strong agnostic. I am also an atheist. But the definition of agnostic atheist doesn't really fit, probably largely because it doesn't include the strong agnostic definition in it.

I see a strong distinction between knowledge and belief. That's how I can believe that humans cannot know whether or not there are any gods, yet hold a strong belief that there are none.


I'm a weak agnostic. I believe the answers can be found through theoretical astrophysics (by discovering more about the origin of the universe) and microbiology (by discovering more about the origin of life).


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willpeavy wrote:
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Interesting. I guess I am a strong agnostic. I am also an atheist. But the definition of agnostic atheist doesn't really fit, probably largely because it doesn't include the strong agnostic definition in it.

I see a strong distinction between knowledge and belief. That's how I can believe that humans cannot know whether or not there are any gods, yet hold a strong belief that there are none.


I'm a weak agnostic. I believe the answers can be found through theoretical astrophysics (by discovering more about the origin of the universe) and microbiology (by discovering more about the origin of life).

I guess my thinking is that gods are nearly all conceived of as being smarter and more powerful than humans, so if they didn't want to be detected by us, they'd be able to avoid it. I think that we can probably rule out certain specifically defined gods based on the characteristics they are supposed to have and the things they are supposed to have done, but can't rule out all the entire class of gods.

Some theists actually use this kind of argument, saying that the fact that science doesn't match with literal interpretation of the bible doesn't mean the biblical god does not exist, because god could have made the scientific evidence look that way. Some see this as a potential test of faith to see if some folks will be lured away from Him by this science. As long as this argument can be made, then scientific evidence can't prove there is no god.

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willpeavy wrote:
I'm a weak agnostic. I believe the answers can be found through theoretical astrophysics (by discovering more about the origin of the universe) and microbiology (by discovering more about the origin of life).


I agree! I love "The Elegant Universe" & other specials & books that are similar. I have difficulty wrapping my mind around some of the concepts, but it's fun to try. Like all times existing simultaneously -- ???? Is it even possible, given our linear perspective, to really grasp that? I wish I was more fluent in the language of math. --sigh

BTW, I read a sci fi book where there were buildings that were going backward in time. I don't recall all the details, but I found the whole idea fascinating.

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