You guys are gonna hate me
for this but I personaly think that everybody has a right to make their own choices wherever I/we agree with it or not! yes it's dissapointing and I wish cruelty to all living things would end but I'm not going to judge someone else for not being vegan
This thread is going to take on an all too familiar theme.
Big, would you judge somebody for murdering another adult? A child? What about raping a female? Would you judge somebody for that? What about kidnapping a child from his mother? Is that "judgment" worthy?
That is what happens in the dairy industry. The victims of murder are not other people, they are the dairy cows that are too exhausted to produce more dairy and therefore shipped off to slaughter to be somebody's ast food hamburger. The child victims of murder in the dairy industry are the veal calves. The rape victims are the cows that are continously impregnated artificially so as to keep producing milk. The kidnap victims are the calves that are separated from their mothers within hours of being born, and the mothers too suffer as much as the calves that LONG for their mothers milk, and their mothers warmth and presence.
So what is the difference then? Why judge in the former context but withhold judgment in the later context? Because in the second context the victims are bovine instead of homo -sapien, so their suffering, murders, abductions, tortures and rapes are somehow less deserving of our moral outrage and "judgmental instincts"? I dont THINK so.
Of course, the best way to convince people is to explain to them in a loving, kind, and non-judgmental way -- I get that. But I dont buy this b^%%$ s*&^ about how veganism is a choice and everybody is entitled to make it for themselves. Veganism is no less of a political issue or freedom of choice issue than is the murder and rape of children.
I dont see the moral imperative of fruitarianism in the same way as I see the moral imperative of veganism. We are talking here about morality and ethics of veganism, not the health perspective of veganism. So no, I dont think you can judge a non-fruitarian in the same way you can judge a non-vegan. By all means, if there is a strong moral argument in favour of fruitariamism such that it can fit into the example I above, enlighten me.
Crispy Q, ya i have heard about the addictive properties of cheese. I have always read about the addictive properties of sugar. I will get personal here and reveal to you all that apparently my inability to resist choc cake with blue icing has something to do with psychological reasons (childhood memories). Do I allow myself to ever think it is okay to have non-vegan cake with blue icing because my need for it has emotional childhood issues behind it? No. Never. Unless it is a matter of eat or die, non-vegan options should not be considered options, as Jonathan I think put it once. That is the only standard I will ever measure myself against ever. And when I fall short, I dont console myself in the fact that there are psychological reasons for my "addiction" for blue icing, or that sugar is scientifically proven to have addictive properties. I say ppppsssssshhhttt to all that.
of me to push my "its wong to rape women", "its wrong to take innocent lives", "its wrong to molest children", etc etc, beliefs onto other people, I know. How dare I do so. Who do I think I am? People should just do what "feels" right for them.