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7 Billion People By The End Of 2011

#1 Postby beforewisdom » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:55 am


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Re: 7 Billion People By The End Of 2011

#2 Postby Dallas » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:32 am

And we can't even feed everyone.

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#3 Postby Ryofire » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:32 pm

Blame Octo-mom

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#4 Postby Lean and Green » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:07 am

Ryofire wrote:Blame Octo-mom

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Re: 7 Billion People By The End Of 2011

#5 Postby beforewisdom » Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:18 pm

2097 wrote:Its mostly China and India. Stupid leaders told their people to have more children for War.


That might be true, but it isn't the reason for the current size of the global population.

Poor people have more children because they have higher child mortality rates due to poverty and they have more children so there will be someone to support them when they are old.

The National Geographic enjoys a very good reputation for getting information right. If you haven't, watch the video. It states that the population problem isn't just about raw numbers of people. It is about resource consumption and pollution generation. In other words, Westerners need to cut back on people as well as we use several times more resources.........even when we are conscientious ( it is built into our infrastructure ) than 3rd world people.

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Re: 7 Billion People By The End Of 2011

#6 Postby Ryofire » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:45 pm

beforewisdom wrote:
2097 wrote:Its mostly China and India. Stupid leaders told their people to have more children for War.


That might be true, but it isn't the reason for the current size of the global population.

Poor people have more children because they have higher child mortality rates due to poverty and they have more children so there will be someone to support them when they are old.

The National Geographic enjoys a very good reputation for getting information right. If you haven't, watch the video. It states that the population problem isn't just about raw numbers of people. It is about resource consumption and pollution generation. In other words, Westerners need to cut back on people as well as we use several times more resources.........even when we are conscientious ( it is built into our infrastructure ) than 3rd world people.


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Re: 7 Billion People By The End Of 2011

#7 Postby beforewisdom » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:41 am

-OR- just use condoms, advocate for better birth control methods being available, reading up on population issues and still having sex anyway :)

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Re: 7 Billion People By The End Of 2011

#8 Postby Ryofire » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:28 pm

beforewisdom wrote:-OR- just use condoms, advocate for better birth control methods being available, reading up on population issues and still having sex anyway :)


Yea, your idea sounds better.
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Re: 7 Billion People By The End Of 2011

#9 Postby beforewisdom » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:22 pm

The world replacement fertility rate is 2.something children per woman.

If people stuck to no more than 2 kids, the population would eventually stabilize.

If people could just be taught that, that would be HUGE.

You don't have to turn people away by asking them not to breed, just to stop at 2, which I think many people would be happy doing if they learned about all of the issues.

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Re: 7 Billion People By The End Of 2011

#10 Postby Ryofire » Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:55 pm

If people want so many kids, they should adopt. It's a better solution, because why bring more children into the world, when there are already children who need homes that are already here. It's not fair to them at all.
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Re: 7 Billion People By The End Of 2011

#11 Postby vege » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:51 am

2097 wrote:Its mostly China and India. Stupid leaders told their people to have more children for War.

I am just wondering where did you hear about this information? Check this out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy

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Re: 7 Billion People By The End Of 2011

#12 Postby beforewisdom » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:24 am

Ryofire wrote:If people want so many kids, they should adopt. It's a better solution, because why bring more children into the world, when there are already children who need homes that are already here. It's not fair to them at all.


The best way to make sure that a positive change never happens in the world is to focus on "shoulds" instead of working with "what is".

- Adoption is extraordinarily expensive and can take years.
- Many people feel compelled, perhaps by instinct, to have some kids of their own.

Given that those two things are never going to go away it is better to accept those things as a reality and work with it by educating people as to why they would want to stop at a maximum of 2 kids, if they want kids.

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Re: 7 Billion People By The End Of 2011

#13 Postby lobsteriffic » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:45 am

beforewisdom wrote:The best way to make sure that a positive change never happens in the world is to focus on "shoulds" instead of working with "what is".



+1

Couldn't agree more

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Re: 7 Billion People By The End Of 2011

#14 Postby Ryofire » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:36 pm

beforewisdom wrote:
Ryofire wrote:If people want so many kids, they should adopt. It's a better solution, because why bring more children into the world, when there are already children who need homes that are already here. It's not fair to them at all.


The best way to make sure that a positive change never happens in the world is to focus on "shoulds" instead of working with "what is".

- Adoption is extraordinarily expensive and can take years.
- Many people feel compelled, perhaps by instinct, to have some kids of their own.

Given that those two things are never going to go away it is better to accept those things as a reality and work with it by educating people as to why they would want to stop at a maximum of 2 kids, if they want kids.


Adoption is expensive, but so is having lots of kids. That's why a lot of people end up poor because they're ignorant and think that they can afford it. And second of all there's nothing wrong with adopting. Step parents can be just as loving if not more than biological parents.
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Re: 7 Billion People By The End Of 2011

#15 Postby lobsteriffic » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:39 pm

I know two different couples who went through the adoption process and it was very, very long and arduous, and caused a lot of heart break.


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