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Re: Do we need heavier moderation here?

#76 Postby beforewisdom » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:59 pm

VeganEssentials wrote:Many of the people who really knew their stuff have all flown the coop. xjohanx, medman and plenty of others who used to be a wealth of info all disappeared in the past year or so, it has pretty much been a free-for-all of everything ranging from valid to tinfoil hat ever since.


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Re: Do we need heavier moderation here?

#77 Postby beforewisdom » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:03 pm

I just wanted to right that I do not enjoy situations like this thread.

I think thread is valid and expresses real concerns. I don't enjoy talk about banning people and I don't enjoy criticizing people. I don't see anyway around it given the potentially harmful and the persistent nature of the misinformation posted here. I don't have a magic answer that will everyone happy and not hurt anyone's feelings. I just wanted to say that.

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Re: Do we need heavier moderation here?

#78 Postby Fallen_Horse » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:46 pm

VeganEssentials wrote:...xjohanx, medman and plenty of others who used to be a wealth of info all disappeared in the past year or so....

Where did those kids get off to anyway?
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Re: Do we need heavier moderation here?

#79 Postby Fallen_Horse » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:01 pm

2097 wrote:You don't gotta be condescending by feeding me the google/wikipedia pages. Of course its not going to be listed on the wikipedia page. :)

Jupiter has an internal energy source -- a very large energy source. - http://www.grandunification.com/hypertext/Jupiter.html

Even if I am yoyo-ing like you say...am I talking crap?

You can't measure Wisdom with a device. A "Wisdom meter" doesn't exist. An energy meter is astrology but astrology is used wrong by astrologers by trying to predict the future; the constructive way to use astrology is to understand that energy needs to be burnt so it can transform into constructive energy. Thats why we feel great the day after exercising. Use it, recovery, collect.

I have Wisdom. Other people have different energies that I do not have. Most gay people have the energy of Venus(Love). Dominant types have the energy of Mars(Sex)...ever seen a dominant female..cheryl cole is known as the dominant type in the bedroom as an example. And so forth with the energies of other planets in our solar system.

Ok man, this is not good. I am not trying to be rude or hurtful or anything, but this is not a good path that you are on.
Firstly, there is no such thing as a 'ball of light.' Light does not form balls, and very many of the statements on that website are simply incorrect according to what we already know about the universe.
Secondly, astrology is simply not a science. Not in any way.
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Re: Do we need heavier moderation here?

#80 Postby lobsteriffic » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:40 pm

Fallen_Horse wrote:
VeganEssentials wrote:...xjohanx, medman and plenty of others who used to be a wealth of info all disappeared in the past year or so....

Where did those kids get off to anyway?


I was just thinking about some of those peeps the other day - I learned a lot from their posts.

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Re: Do we need heavier moderation here?

#81 Postby Richard » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:09 pm

el_flaco wrote:I take it this thread is fairly representative of the quality across this forum? If so, yes, you need better moderation.

It isn't a question of rights. The banjos are still free to post their nonsense online. The community has the right not to give them a platform. The problems are compounded if the banjo is unable to determine the significance of their opinion. Rather than putting it out there once for discussion they decide it merits debate on every thread.

If someone is unable to play nice with the other children maybe they need some time on the naughty step to think about what they've done. Maybe a banning order doesn't have to be permanent.

I seem to remember veganpotter was banned not for an outrageous offence but for the overall health of the community. From the outside it seems in worse shape now than then, but maybe I'm wrong there.

Yeah I agree also. Many of the regular users from back then are gone which is a shame, including losing potter, because it's not like he just posted arguments and attacks 100% of the time, it had just become too regular. When he wasn't involved in those conflicts, his contributions were really good. Potter wasn't banned for one specific outrageous incident, rather he was regularly attacking people, or posting replies to other posts which seemed out of proportion, even if he was right in what he was saying, it was often put across in an overly aggressive / argumentative way.
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Re: Do we need heavier moderation here?

#82 Postby penpen » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:11 pm

lobsteriffic wrote:Just a question, do the 811ers on here know about 30bananasaday.com? I think they have a pretty active forum? If this forum doesn't fit your lifestyle I would think that one would? Not telling anyone to leave, just saying.


Lol, I remember when some guy at the health food store was telling my husband and I about that... smile and nod, smile and nod... be open minded and try not to assume it's a gay porn site.

He never told me why he stopped eating 30 bananas a day though.

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Re: Do we need heavier moderation here?

#83 Postby lobsteriffic » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:17 pm

penpen wrote:be open minded and try not to assume it's a gay porn site.


haha, that made my day

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Re: Do we need heavier moderation here?

#84 Postby goob » Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:06 pm

lobsteriffic wrote:I kind of feel like it's the crazies that drive people away, but maybe I'm off base with that.


This is why I am leaving, so you can't be that far off.

When I first found this forum I really liked it. It seemed very friendly and it inspired me to start lifting weights and show everyone around me that vegans can be strong. But, I don't like coming here anymore because it seems most of the active members have been brainwashed by a quack chiropractor that pretends to be a nutritionist.

I'm sure there are a lot of people that feel the same as I do about this place. The worst part about it though, is that some people probably come here a few times, get some dangerous advice and become ill, then give up on veganism because it didn't work. Or, even worse, someone could die.

I'm going to join veganfitness.net and hopefully I like that place as much as I used to like this forum.

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Re: Do we need heavier moderation here?

#85 Postby VeganEssentials » Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:27 pm

goob wrote:
lobsteriffic wrote:But, I don't like coming here anymore because it seems most of the active members have been brainwashed by a quack chiropractor that pretends to be a nutritionist.


It's only a few people here that went that route, but they tend to be the most vocal of the bunch, turning everything ranging from "What's a good leg training routine?" to "What's your favorite restaurant?" into something that they feel compelled to steer toward whatever they think is the 'only' way to eat/live.

It's too bad, I hate to see anyone else go, but the good news is that I'm seeing less of the quackery lately. Perhaps some of them are finally getting the message that if people WANT to know about 80/10/10, they'll ask about it, it isn't at all necessary to preach the gospel of their diet to everyone here at every chance. It's long overdue that they stop pushing it with cult-like ferocity and understand that this isn't a recruiting ground, some of us don't want to learn about a diet that we don't have any desire to eat by.
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Re: Do we need heavier moderation here?

#86 Postby pazios2002 » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:25 pm

goob wrote:
lobsteriffic wrote:I kind of feel like it's the crazies that drive people away, but maybe I'm off base with that.


This is why I am leaving, so you can't be that far off.

When I first found this forum I really liked it. It seemed very friendly and it inspired me to start lifting weights and show everyone around me that vegans can be strong. But, I don't like coming here anymore because it seems most of the active members have been brainwashed by a quack chiropractor that pretends to be a nutritionist.

I'm sure there are a lot of people that feel the same as I do about this place. The worst part about it though, is that some people probably come here a few times, get some dangerous advice and become ill, then give up on veganism because it didn't work. Or, even worse, someone could die.

I'm going to join veganfitness.net and hopefully I like that place as much as I used to like this forum.


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Re: Do we need heavier moderation here?

#87 Postby MillionDollarVeggie » Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:35 pm

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Re: Do we need heavier moderation here?

#88 Postby Fallen_Horse » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:50 pm

MillionDollarVeggie wrote:Can't we all just get along?

Why did that scene have to exist....
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Re: Do we need heavier moderation here?

#89 Postby johnboy74 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:17 am

Don't think the occasional crazy bouncing around this forum would make me leave this forum, a lack of atmosphere and social dynamics would though.
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Re: Do we need heavier moderation here?

#90 Postby MillionDollarVeggie » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:35 pm

Fallen_Horse wrote:
MillionDollarVeggie wrote:Can't we all just get along?

Why did that scene have to exist....



Well, I could have said: "Use the force mods" but that kind of sounds like an enema slogan. :lachmal:
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