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Specifically, where is the cheapest place to buy fair trade and/or organic clothing? Everywhere I look online it's $30 just for a t-shirt! I understand that you have to pay for quality but really??

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So we have a bunch of vegans that don't care about what their clothes do for workers or the planet? :/

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These days I buy most of my stuff second-hand. Sorry I'm not more help.

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I have a hell of a time fitting into most normal stuff (MUCH worse for organic or hemp shirts), and combined with my past bad experiences with so many of the "high quality" organic and fair-trade items that fell apart on me after a few wears, I pretty much gave up on a lot of it. Now I just buy things that fit well, are comfortable, and appear to be capable of lasting me a good run before wearing out. Too many of the pricey items that are supposed to be of exceptional quality for fair-trade/organic clothing are comparable to the quality you get at Old Navy - sure, it may look okay when you first buy it, but if it survives one season and is still wearable, you're ahead of the curve.

I used to do all I could to buy more such things, but when you pay $30+ for a t-shirt and it's worthless after 4 washings, you get pretty soured on it. It isn't really helping the planet any if you have to spend more for something that falls apart quickly and needs to be replaced, so in the end, I realized that having to discard/donate half my wardrobe every season was more detrimental to the environment than getting something that lasts

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Ok, so the "fitting into normal stuff" isn't nearly so much of an issue for me , but I'm with you regarding buying stuff that lasts. I had the greatest, most comfortable organic bamboo shirt...until I wore a hole in the shoulder (???) 3 months into owning it. Bamboo may be a renewable resource, but the $40 it cost isn't

I've had similar thoughts about organic produce ( for some reason, organic whole grains and legumes have always been reasonably priced ) that is outrageously priced. It isn't doing the planet any good if most people can't afford to use it. If it can't be made affordable for most people ( which I don't believe ) than it isn't a realistic way of helping.

Telling people that they have had it good without appreciating that they have had it good and that they just have to fork over more of their income for food likely isn't going to work on a significant scale either.

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Why wear clothes when you can go nude?

This website has some good info on the ethical standing of clothing companies http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/

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I also found http://www.goodguide.com/ which seems legit...

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