sirdle wrote:Thanks for the details, Natalie... very persuasive!
A couple of questions and comments:I LUV THAT PICTURE you are so cute!!!!!!
Thanks, I wish I were still that cute. I will be again after 12 months on my new program, though!
Don't doubt that for a second!To reduce costs, some feed lots add cardboard, newspaper, sawdust, chicken and pig manure, industrial sewege, oils, and even cement dust to animals feed
How can that reduce costs? If there are no nutrients in the feed that can be converted to fat, how can this be beneficial at all? Is this due to poor quality control? Are there nutrients, of a sort, in these substances that the cattle can convert to fat? Or am I missing something?
Not exactly sure why or how - I only know that this what happens. See the following sources: Food Revolution by John Robbins, Diet for a New America by John Robbins, Mad Cowboy by Howard Lyman (a former cattle rancher gone vegan), Animal Factories by Jim Mason and Peter Singer, and Factories of Despair, a publication by Animal Righst International (from which most of the info above was obtained).they are often hung upside down from a hook and delimbed (i.e. have their limbs hacked off) while fully conscious.
Is this because the were not killed on the killing line, or do you think this represents sadism on the part of the workers?
Both. But one main reason is because one common method of killing cattle is hanging them upside down, from a hook, slitting their throats, and letting them bleed out to death, one slow, painful, terrifying drop of blood at a time. The problem is that many a times, although in some some states, the workers are required by weak animal welfare laws to wait until the animals are dead before they can start hacking away at the animals' limbs with a saw or whatever, they are encouraged (by the greedy meat sellers or by sadism on their parts, or a combo of both) to NOT wait and to "process animals and convert them into chops quickly". So cows end up getting delimbed while fully conscious, terrified and alread bleeding to death profusely. It is truly a sickening site. People need to understand that this is happening daily and it is not a myth. The goal is to "process" the max number of animals a day, because it boils down to money. This is, as common sense itself dictates, a recipe for animal abuse and suffering.
Animals in laboratories are force fed bleach, have corrosive substances dripped into their eyes after being strapped down with their eyeballs pinned open so that cannot move or blink. Many break their necks and backs trying to escape the pain. All this so L'oreal can come up with a new shade of haircolour to maintain "market share", or Proctor and Gamble can come up with a new scented Mr. Clean product.
I don't understand this at all... oh, wait. You moved from food prep to product testing, didn't you? These are methods that Proctor and Gamble, et al, use to test their products before releasing them to the public?
[color=blue]yes sirdle, i switched over from the food industry to the vivisection industry. Sorry - i should have maybe stayed focussed on the food issue. But for frivolous things like cosmetics, household cleaning products, etc. animals suffer in laboratories, have invasive and frankenstein - ish scary "tests" performed on them, all to test chemicals, pesticides, costmetics, cleaning agents, etc. Animals in laboratories - unseen they suffer, unheard they cry, in agony they loinger, and in loneliness they die. They are sentenced to a whole life behind bars and in dreary scary laboratories. Many companies like Estee Lauder have made a commitment in writing to test for product safety without the use of animals. So clearly, this is both possible and feasible. Companies that are NOTORIOUS for animal torture, maiming, blinding and killing include Arm & Hammer (as in the baking soda), proctor and gamble (makers of Tide, Mr Clean, Colgate or crest - cannot remember which but both products are bad anyway), Unilever (makers of Oil of Olay, Vaseline, etc etc).
For a complete list, visit caringconsumer.com
Visit stopanimaltests.com and watch some of the caught on tape exposes of the vivisection industry and what the issues involved with this controversial issue of animal testing are. It is truly heartbreaking.
And, the fact of the matter is that many of these tests are cruel, antiquated, redundant and unnecessary. There are plenty of vegan companies out there that show us that not only do we not need to test products on animals, we dont need to use any animal derived/slaughterhouse byproduct ingredient in our products.
Visit Pangea, or Vegan Essentials. They will send you a free catalogue - and i am one of those people that LOVE browsing through catalogues.
Finally, another website and source of info that might be of interest is www.pcrm.org. This is the website for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.
Finally for some lighter, comcial animal rights cartoons that will make you laugh and cry at the same time, visit Bizarro.com and click on animal stuff.
I know that this is a lot to take in especially since you are new to this. Just take it one step, one compassionate gesture at a time, and before you know it, you will be a very informed and aware consumer. And, while the struggle for animal justice may seem so big and hopeless, dont ever think that one person cannot make a difference. The fact of the matter is that social change happens one kind, caring person at a time!
You CAN make a difference in your daily lifestyle choices by removing support for animal exploitation, one step at a time (or in one leap at a time )[/color]