Hi there, crazy kitten
Daywalker I think I was really awful to say you despise vegetarians.
Maybe i chose the wrong word. Contempt?
I think vegetarianism doesn't help animals at all. Telling vegetarians that you think they're "on the right way" doesn't help them one bit to get closer to veganism, i actually think it keeps them from getting there. They think it's okay to be vegetarian only. But by consuming milk and eggs, usually more than average meat eaters, they contribute just the same to animal plight.
I feel that vegetarians should know better. Meat eaters are careless, but at least they are consistent. Vegetarians often (not always) feel ethically superior, i have been mocked by vegetarians often enough for being "too extreme" - they are doing enough for the animals and milking doesn't hurt!
But at least they are making a step in the right direction and I think you should give them credit for that.
As long as they are content with being vegetarian animals are suffering no less.
I don't "hate" vegetarians (i very very rarely do feel hate at all, i'd dare say never. Maybe anger sometimes, but hate? I don't think so), but i would never reassure them that they are doing fine, i keep encouraging them to go further towards veganism. I don't pat them on the shoulders too much (though i congratulate them for giving up meat).
This is not a contest!
Of course not.
It’s about helping animals and we should be greatful for anyone making a change in their life that contributes.
I don't think that being vegetarian contributes to the animal rights idea at all. Rather, i think that
- vegetarians consume in total about as much animal products or even more than meat eaters (more eggs, more dairy, as much leather).
- average consumers who talk with vegetarians agree that veganism is "extreme" and unnecessary for compassionate people
- vegetarianism (?) prevents vegetarians from getting vegan
Vegetarians are already open minded, so why not try being their friend and just showing them how great a vegan lifestyle can be. In stead of playing some holier then thou crap. That’s not ganna win us vegan any points.
It's not about being "holier". I don't play that with meat eaters as well. But it's about arguments, and i find that vegetarians often and more reluctant to listen to reason than average consumers. Many think they are already at the top of development.
If they are really open minded, they will go vegan. I know too many people who call themselves "vegetarian" and still eat fish. (Or gelatine. Or chicken
I cannot be good friend with people who are not vegan. I am friendly and i don't hate them, i can live aside them, but as long as they knowingly and willfully contribute to the plight they see, they can not be my close friend, or rather, i can not be their close friend.
It's sad that the world is full of egoistic, careless people. It could be a paradise.
I agree that vegetarism is a step in the right direction, but it's only the first and too many people stop the journey after that first step. When i said i despise vegetarians i just meant that it saddens me more that vegetarians argue against veganism than when meat eaters argue against vegetarism.
I hope you understand my point
love and peace,