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#31 Postby exciton » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:03 pm

Hi Raven,

Yeah, I know. I really should participate in the discussions. It will come, but I'm a bit pressed for time at the moment. This also implies that I don't have a workout routine... only workout _guidelines_. (Actually the last time a had a workout program was 6-7 years ago.) If things were ideal, I would opt for a three-day split.. but in my present situation, I use a simple principle stated by Arnold: Do some kind of training every day. Soo.. since I have a bench and squat rack at home, it tricky NOT to do something.

Usually i do something like: Bench press, one-arm rows, squats, incline db press, standing military press, chin-ups ad libitum (ad nauseam). For some reason I do a few sets of concentration curls every day... come rain or come shine. I can't help it.

Basically, my diet looks like this:

Breakfast:
200 grams oats with water
20 g soy protein isolate

Lunch:
100 g rice
125 g red kidney beans
73 g tofu
1/6 cucumber
Some artichoke hearts & olives

Dinner:
20 g soy protein isolate
150 g Falaffel
100 g brown/white rice mix
One avocado
Some seaweed
Soy sauce

+ lots of bananas, oranges, carrots,
almonds, cashews, figs and oatmeal between the
main meals. I also eat a multivitamin supplement.

Hm. Think thats it :).

Thanks for your comment, btw.
You display a very nice biceps! -- I just browsed your journal.

Take care,
Niels


_raVen_ wrote:Hey, Niels, why don't we see you on the boards?!! Plus, I'd like to know your workout routine and diet -- you are in great shape!

You don't have to create a journal; you can respond to this post and post an example of your food and workout in my journal, if you want :)

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#32 Postby _raVen_ » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:00 pm

Okay, being busy is a good reason!

Thanks so much. It really helps to read what big guys like you eat. One of the comments that comes up when talking to (especially) men is that one can't get "big" on a vegan diet or fears that they will lose their size, etc.
So it 's good to have some examples of in-shape guys with muscle and size, and know what your diets are. Not too many men post a food log.

My biceps...Thanks, I'm working on them :)

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#33 Postby exciton » Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:32 am

Hi Raven,

You are very welcome. I am not a "big" guy, though -- it's all an illusion. I think my lifestyle would have to change radically if i ever wanted to actually get big. Nevertheless, by adding moderate amounts of muscle to exposed areas such as shoulders, chest, underarms, one can relatively quickly create this illusion. For me, this more or less came out of the wash in what was originally an attempt to gain strength (not size).

Best regards,
Niels




_raVen_ wrote:Okay, being busy is a good reason!

Thanks so much. It really helps to read what big guys like you eat. One of the comments that comes up when talking to (especially) men is that one can't get "big" on a vegan diet or fears that they will lose their size, etc.
So it 's good to have some examples of in-shape guys with muscle and size, and know what your diets are. Not too many men post a food log.

My biceps...Thanks, I'm working on them :)

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#34 Postby _raVen_ » Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:25 am

Just an illusion? :lol: Okay. I do know a picture is worth a thousand words, but it also doesn't tell the whole story ;) I mean, you actually think I have biceps!

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#35 Postby exciton » Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:41 am

I _know_ you have biceps ;)

If you browse "classic" books on bodybuilding by Arnold and/or Frank Zane, I think you will discover that they mention the importance of the illusion. For instance if your waist is really narrow and your shoulders are wide relative to the waist (but not necessarily wide in absolute measures) you will appear wide. This illusion can be produced(enhanced) by twisting your torso when posing:
http://www.geektimes.com/michael/site/a ... negger.jpg

...of course Arnold was wide by any measure, but it's just to illustrate the concept :)

_raVen_ wrote:Just an illusion? :lol: Okay. I do know a picture is worth a thousand words, but it also doesn't tell the whole story ;) I mean, you actually think I have biceps!

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#36 Postby _raVen_ » Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:17 am

Hmmm...what can be done for a wide waist :? ?

Am I bad if I don't like Arnie?
Admittedly a good pic, though.

~but small forearms...~

:D

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#37 Postby exciton » Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:38 pm

Hmm. A wide waist... I'm afraid I might not be the right person to ask about this. I'm genetically "gifted" with a narrow waist -- (but genetically cursed with being a hardgainer). Nevertheless, up to a certain point cardio will help in this situation, wouldn't you agree? And targeted high rep training of the abdominal obliques would probably also be a good idea.

I don't even know what kind of _person_ Arnold is -- I just know that he was a champion bodybuilder. And I'm not really sure I agree with you on your opinion on his forearms, but we can still be friends :D.


_raVen_ wrote:Hmmm...what can be done for a wide waist :? ?

Am I bad if I don't like Arnie?
Admittedly a good pic, though.

~but small forearms...~

:D

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#38 Postby _raVen_ » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:02 pm

exciton wrote:... I don't even know what kind of _person_ Arnold is -- I just know that he was a champion bodybuilder...


Fair enough. Unfortunately, I know more than I want to about him; he's our governor :evil:

...And I'm not really sure I agree with you on your opinion on his forearms, but we can still be friends.



:sunny:

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#39 Postby exciton » Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:02 pm

Governator Arnold. Yep, that was probably not his smartest move.

_raVen_ wrote:
exciton wrote:... I don't even know what kind of _person_ Arnold is -- I just know that he was a champion bodybuilder...


Fair enough. Unfortunately, I know more than I want to about him; he's our governor :evil:

...And I'm not really sure I agree with you on your opinion on his forearms, but we can still be friends.



:sunny:

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#40 Postby _raVen_ » Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:16 pm

He is sooo power hungry it's sick! He's a big, fat ZERO.
Going to work hard to Image this year. Last election wasn't enough :evil:

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#41 Postby exciton » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:37 pm

Yes, I've noticed that quite a few people in California are not too happy with the way he does things. I guess the conclusion is that bodybuildes should not enter politics.

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#42 Postby robert » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:41 pm

I'm going to buy a Danish Flag this week for my next photo shoot for the Danish Vegetarian magazine :)

So be sure to check out the next few issues of that magazine. 8)

Check out my Vegan Bodybuilding & Fitness Book on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Vegan-Bodybuildin ... 497&sr=1-1

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#43 Postby exciton » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:19 pm

Cool, I certainly will do that! :)

robert wrote:I'm going to buy a Danish Flag this week for my next photo shoot for the Danish Vegetarian magazine :)

So be sure to check out the next few issues of that magazine. 8)


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