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#16 Postby exciton » Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:52 am

Welcome Animal!

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#17 Postby kylie » Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:22 am

whassup Animal - cool name. :supz:
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Vegan beef will reign supreme.

#18 Postby Animal » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:47 am

Thanks again for the kind words. It is quite satisfying to see beefy vegan f$#@ers debunking the stereotype of a weak anemic herbivore. It makes me just want hit the gym again and storm those weights. This is getting me all fired up.

kylie: Animal is my real world nickname. I even had university profs who referred to me by that name. It got a bit out of control a few times when during formal occasions I was introduced as Mr. Animal. :)

kollision: private message me if you want me to supply you with some music involving gurgling grunts and murder shrieks. I have some really vile music on my hard drive that you may like. I put up a website for vegan metal and hardcore fans (www.veggielante.com), but I kinda lost momentum at some point. I have a few interviews and reviews I should have posted aeons ago.
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#19 Postby kollision » Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:48 am

Thanks animal, would love to hear some. Also, I checked out your site. Has some cool games on there. You own all of those? I played Deer Avenger a LOONG time ago (before I was vegan) and i have heard of that Whiplash.

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#20 Postby Gym hater » Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:06 am

Welcome Animal. There are a some metal and hardcore fans on this board. I like metal too, but don't really know what hardcore is. Guess its music like propaghandi, wich I also like.


jonathan wrote:welcome!

i know its nothing special, but thats my back in the avatar. ive been vegan 2 1/2 years, been training for that amount of time too, have gained 35kilos and im 6foot 8. maybe not what your beefcake gym acquiantances would expect! :lol:

jonathan


How much is 6foot 8 in meters?

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#21 Postby kollision » Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:15 pm

How much is 6foot 8 in meters?


Almost 2.1336 meters

Have you seen Andre the Giant? He's about that height.

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#22 Postby Animal » Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:57 am

Gym hater: Propaghandi are most definitely a hardcore band. I've heard that their older stuff is softer, but the track I've heard on the PETA benefit punk compilation from Fat Wreck records was excellent. It had fast angry energetic music, with great lyrics about the double standard we've set for animals. Very emotional song.

kollision: check your private mailbox. I've sent you my contact info. I don't own all of them. I've rented Whiplash before and really enjoyed running around the labs and liberating animals while vandalizing everything else. Quite the catharsis. I own a copy of Deer Avenger. I want to order Steer Madness, the video clip on their website blows my mind. The last one is my project, but I've put it on hold for a while. Its a Penguin simulator where you attack poachers and seal hunters. A personal fantasy of mine.
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So unbeknowing in their anonimity.

'Cause when you're marked for death,

ears switch off to the screams."



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Hello

#23 Postby saydie » Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:20 pm

Hi!
I'm new here too, from Montreal, now in Phoenix.
I was told this morning (For the second time by a trainer) that I couldn't possibly get enough protein or build muscle by being Vegan. He was definately interested in making money with me, but when I mentionned my eating preferences I got the brush off. he said to go see someone else.... I'm FUMING!!

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#24 Postby Animal » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:13 pm

saydie wrote:Hi!
I'm new here too, from Montreal, now in Phoenix.
I was told this morning (For the second time by a trainer) that I couldn't possibly get enough protein or build muscle by being Vegan. He was definately interested in making money with me, but when I mentionned my eating preferences I got the brush off. he said to go see someone else.... I'm FUMING!!


I don't use a trainer myself, but the gym I go to (goodlife fitness) has posters promoting their training programs (which include nutrition and workout routines). The posters mention that they also cater to vegetarians. Its not the trainers that have the misconceptions here it seems, its the heavy lifter patrons that seem to have these notions. And bodybuilder websites seem to spew the beef->muscle mantras. I've read a few articles that claimed that a soy based diet will reduce testosterone levels and decrease muscle growth potential and semen production in males. I'm not sure how 'scientific' these articles were, even if the authors had PHDs attached to their names. The point is that even if its total rubbish, being constantly told that does affect the morale. When a lie gets repeated enough times, even a rational person starts having occasional doubts.
"Strung up, disemboweled right out of the pen.

So unbeknowing in their anonimity.

'Cause when you're marked for death,

ears switch off to the screams."



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#25 Postby kollision » Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:39 pm

animal wrote:kollision: check your private mailbox. I've sent you my contact info. I don't own all of them. I've rented Whiplash before and really enjoyed running around the labs and liberating animals while vandalizing everything else. Quite the catharsis. I own a copy of Deer Avenger. I want to order Steer Madness, the video clip on their website blows my mind. The last one is my project, but I've put it on hold for a while. Its a Penguin simulator where you attack poachers and seal hunters. A personal fantasy of mine.


Going to check it, thanks!

So you are a computer programmer? That's cool! Good luck on making it, sounds cool. Hopefull they'll get a hint at it from the game :P

Whiplash, I'll have to give it a try. Do you kill people at all?

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#26 Postby Animal » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:02 am

kollision wrote:Whiplash, I'll have to give it a try. Do you kill people at all?


Nah. You knock them out, but they recover after some time has elapsed.

They had to keep it PG13. It already caused quite a roar in England, where the pharmaceutical industry was concerned it may affect impressionable young minds. That's why PETA gave them their award for the game.

It's amazing. When we show them advertisements for burgers geared to their aesthetics and sensibilities, with clowns and crap, its okay. But when we teach compassion, then we are being manipulative... Boils the blood, doesn't it?
"Strung up, disemboweled right out of the pen.

So unbeknowing in their anonimity.

'Cause when you're marked for death,

ears switch off to the screams."



- Napalm Death: Food Chains

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#27 Postby kollision » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:08 am

Animal wrote:
kollision wrote:Whiplash, I'll have to give it a try. Do you kill people at all?


Nah. You knock them out, but they recover after some time has elapsed.

They had to keep it PG13. It already caused quite a roar in England, where the pharmaceutical industry was concerned it may affect impressionable young minds. That's why PETA gave them their award for the game.

It's amazing. When we show them advertisements for burgers geared to their aesthetics and sensibilities, with clowns and crap, its okay. But when we teach compassion, then we are being manipulative... Boils the blood, doesn't it?


Exactly! I think they want to also fool the minds as to where it comes from. Pisses me off having to see a happy cow on their trucks or products. Far from the freakin' truth.

I say, lets make a Mature rating game where you kill the people. That's the least of their worries. They do far worse.

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You're right

#28 Postby saydie » Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:18 am

I see this more like an adventure I'll have to go through on my own. Which is why I'm here and reading a lot on it. (I guess I wanted to hear that second opinion with the second trainer...)
I don't think society is ready to hear the sad truth about what's in our food today. I heard mixed reviews on Soy too, and I really never drink much of it anyway, regardless of what it does. And my sister tells me that many people that have been in the gym business for so long have only one frame of mind, which is too bad, so much has changed in the last decades.
I'm not going to let them get me down, on the contrary, i'm somewhat thankful, because it gives me even more drive :)
*Maybe I can become a Vegan Personal Trainer.. ;)

I don't use a trainer myself, but the gym I go to (goodlife fitness) has posters promoting their training programs (which include nutrition and workout routines). The posters mention that they also cater to vegetarians. Its not the trainers that have the misconceptions here it seems, its the heavy lifter patrons that seem to have these notions. And bodybuilder websites seem to spew the beef->muscle mantras. I've read a few articles that claimed that a soy based diet will reduce testosterone levels and decrease muscle growth potential and semen production in males. I'm not sure how 'scientific' these articles were, even if the authors had PHDs attached to their names. The point is that even if its total rubbish, being constantly told that does affect the morale. When a lie gets repeated enough times, even a rational person starts having occasional doubts.[/quote]

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#29 Postby Animal » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:30 pm

kollision wrote:I say, lets make a Mature rating game where you kill the people. That's the least of their worries. They do far worse.


Hahaha. I like your attitude. I think me and you would get along famously. From an efficacy perspective, I try to tone down the anger since it may create hostility to the cause. But sometimes you gotta vent those anti-humanity sentiments. You gotta check out an album called Ethos Musick from the band Exit-13. They have some pro-pot related content you may or may not like, but also lot of direct action eco defence content, pro-veg, and anti-human lyrics. Check out a song called "Open Season (The Story Of Hunter Slaughter)", about a fellow that was lurking in the Northeast Pennsylvania woods with a rifle, gunning down hunters. :)
"Strung up, disemboweled right out of the pen.

So unbeknowing in their anonimity.

'Cause when you're marked for death,

ears switch off to the screams."



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Re: You're right

#30 Postby Animal » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:36 pm

saydie wrote: I'm not going to let them get me down, on the contrary, i'm somewhat thankful, because it gives me even more drive :)


That's the right attitude.

That's another reason why this website rocks. It shows you people who are are successful vegan athletes. We need role models.
"Strung up, disemboweled right out of the pen.

So unbeknowing in their anonimity.

'Cause when you're marked for death,

ears switch off to the screams."



- Napalm Death: Food Chains


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