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#16 Postby Harley » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:03 pm

Veganpotter, I wish I could schedule work around my cycling but it does not work out that way. I do priortize cycling before everything else other than work. Work does help support my cycling habit.
How is the lifting coming?
I am back in the gym now and loving it.
Which Vega bars do you liek the best?

Finbarrio, yes it is cold. I will start commuting via mountain bike this week and only get road rides in on the weekend.
My family all meets on the cape for 1 week in June, in Eastham. I usually get up early and ride the cape cod trail for 32 miles. It is FLAT so it is not challenging but at least keeps my legs spinning for the week I am there.
However, this past year when we were there it rained. So it was a crummy week to say the least.


#17 Postby veganpotter » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:13 pm

I couldn't imagine having to wear my full gear already...today was cool at 70degrees but I know the 90+degree days aren't gone completely...can't wait for mid-october/early november though...I've gotta work my butt of just to sweat at all...once winter comes I'll gear up and just chiver in pain the whole time(I've got neoprene booties that hold me around 35degrees...any colder and I can't feel anything but pain)

As for work supporting your cycling...school supports mine since I spend my student loans on bike stuff...surely not the smartest thing to do but it sure if fun while I'm still ingnorant. In terms of the lifting...my upper body is getting much stronger but the legs are hard to judge. I know they're getting stronger but I don't give them a chance to rest so I won't see the full benefits until I start doing that(I hate days off)

As for the VEGA...I like the natural flavor in the bars and powder...YOU???

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#18 Postby Harley » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:39 am

Veganpotter, I have not tried Vega yet that is why i asked. I am a raw vegan so I will jsut try the bars not the powder. I am looking for something to take before training and when travelling.
Do you have any pictures of your pottery? I love really cool pottery.


#19 Postby veganpotter » Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:25 pm

My myspace profile has some pics and I have more on here along with some drawings and vegan art pics:


As for the bars...what other raw bars do you like...I love Lara bars but they're pretty worthless due to having so much fat

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#20 Postby Harley » Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:46 am

Veganpotter, you really are talented.
Glass blowing is awesome to. I wish I knew how to do it.
Do you sell your stuff?

As for the bars. I have about 10 lara bars my brother in law gave me but when i eat them I get really tired. I agree, way to much fat. So it looks like they will stay in my cabinet.
I like the raw crunch bars and the Govinda Power bars. The Govinda bars are dehydrated so I have to drink a lot of water or I get a stomach ache. I can only get them online though. We do not have much of a selection of raw stuff here in portland, me. So I have not tried a lot of stuff.

How is training coming this week?


#21 Postby veganpotter » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:38 pm

Thanks a bunch :D As for selling I sell when I have time but school takes up alot of that. I've got a two month show up in a cafe in Baltimore right now and I have a big sale here in Richmond in November but I really do about 4 sales a year and sell little things to individuals in between.

Glass blowing sure is fun but its hell to learn how to do anything...it takes years to learn how to accurately make something that you imagine making so I just did it for fun...I'd still do it now but I got bronchitis this past winter from blowing and it kept me off the bike for a little over 3 weeks and I can't afford to do that again.

As for the bars I can eat a Lara bar for a snack if I'm not doing anything too stressful but not for workouts...or even just relaxing. I've eaten them on rides before and they make me feel like I should have just eaten french fries instead. As for the riding...all is well. I'm taking off the bike today but lifting with my legs(its raining to hard anyway) and depending on how I feel I'm gonna to a 65mile ride in the next two or three days...a heavy spinning interval workout...I'll take advantage of the nice cool weather while I can. How's your riding going???

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#22 Postby Harley » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:46 pm

Riding is going ok. Because it is dark early now I cannot get in training rides after work so I will get the long rides in on saturday and sunday. I am bike commuting and hitting the gym before I go home.
It is funny, now that I am hitting the weights hard I am hungry all the time. versus I can go for a long ride and not be at hungry as a 90-120min weight session.

I try not to eat the bars a lot because I avoid all processed food and even though they are raw bars they are still manufactured.

What type of road bike do you ride?


#23 Postby veganpotter » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:12 pm

The sun defiantely stinks...when I left for Portland I was coming home with daylight at 8:30...now I've gotta be in by 7:45 and it hasn't been all that long. Once winter comes I can't be out past 4:30-45 so I'm gonna have to work around that for my tuesday/thurdsay rides. So what do you eat if you go out for a longer ride...Brendan Brazier carries dates with him so that sounds good to me

As for my bike I ride a CSK with full aluminum frame, aero carbon fork and full 105 groupo. I ride training wheels but I've got a sweet pair of spinergy carbons I throw on for kicks every now and then. I'm working on building up a tt bike from an awesome cannondale frame with carbon wheels and I'm gonna build that up with 105 too. Then I've gotta work on a track frame. I'm hoping my aunt can get my one in Taiwan for cheap(surely much less than half of what a bike costs here). After that I'll work on building up an ultergra/dura ace bike(something super stiff and hopefully in the low 16lb range). What do you ride???

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#24 Postby Harley » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:41 pm

That is what I carry. Dates, dates and dates. Instead of these commercial energy drinks I bring a water bottle filled with blended bananas, raisins or dates and a pinch of celtic sea salt. I found this is the only way I can eat bananas.

I ride a litespeed frame (titanium), a mix of ultegra and dura ace components (I upgrade as I wear things out-it is still a 9 speed), mavic helium wheelset, reynold ouzo fork and easton carbon handlebar, and Look pedals. This bike is my sole mate. Just turned 6 years old and more than 36,000 miles on him.
I am looking to buy the mavic kysrium ES wheelset. it is sweet.

I have done TT and I love them. I cannot afford another bike so I just throw areobars on the Litespeed and I am competative. Maybe someday I will have a separate TT bike. i know I would have better times with a TT bike.

Why stick with the 105 groupo? The Ultegra groupo is much lighter and durable.

it is nice to talk to a vegan about cycling. I do not know of any here where I live. At least I have not met any.


#25 Postby veganpotter » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:02 pm

I got my TT frame on ebay for $180...it has two ironmans on it and thats all...its my size but uses 650 wheels so I got carbon wheels(from different people and brands) since people don't really bid on them any more I got both for around $500(the rear has one half ironman on it, and the front has a few time trials). Thats all I have for it so far but I've got all the real expensive stuff out of the way.
As for your bike it sounds sweet...my hs coach(a pro triathlete) had one and loved it(now he has a full carbon orbea). Titaniums awesome because you can never really upgrade that much with titanium unless you want carbon(assuming you think its better). Your bike must be super light weight(mines a bit over 17lbs).
As for the 105 thing...I'll just get that for my TT bike since its cheaper. Its not quite as stiff or durable but I won't be riding it all the time and I don't think stiffness is all that important since I would spin pretty hard on a TT so I wouldn't be torquing the bike so much(plus I already have the advantage of the 650wheels). I would upgrade my present road bike but I think by the time I'm done with my other bikes I'll be due for a better frame anyway...nothing too fancy...hopefully a bit stiffer and maybe two or three oz lighter(my frame and fork are 3.1lbs if I remember correctly). Hopefully the next road bike I get will also be discounted due to sponsorship(if I'm lucky)
How do you like your HELIUM wheelset??? I'm due to start looking for a new set...mine was built for me when I was 270lbs and now that I'm 200 I don't need so many spokes(32)...as for being a carbon nut I'm not one yet but I've got a sweet token carbon seat(nothing covering it but clear paint) thats only 133 grams...its quite comfortable too. I don't know if they'll ever make a carbon frame stiff enough for me so I'll stick to aluminum(Ti would be nice too)...I rode a non weight restricted carbon frame a few months ago and it felt like it was made with cardboard compared to my frame.

***Oh...I also have a fix gear conversion commuter. A nice new old stock handmade swiss frame...and my dream cruiser is a vegan built Orange Vanilla Cycles frame with custom stainless steel lugs...it would be my show off bike I'd almost never ride other than nights on the town and maybe organized flatish centuries

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#26 Postby Harley » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:38 pm


Titanium is wicked stiff and is really good for a biger rider.
My bike is my sole mate.
It always wants to ride, never complains, loves the outdoors and loves lots of physical activity. Now if I could only find a guy like that.

Sponsorship? Do you race for a team now?

They do not make the Heliums anymore. But Mavics are awesome.


#27 Postby veganpotter » Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:13 pm

I've been told by many that titanium is stiff but I've always wondered why the only pro athletes that compete on titanium are triathletes(mostly and a few track cyclists). I've never believed the whippy frame thing people talk about but I've never tried it so I'll have to give it a try is I ever run into somebody with a race set up Ti frame. Pro cyclists used to say the same thing about carbon and now there are very few teams still riding aluminum anything nowadays.
As for sponsorship I'm not there yet but I'm hoping VEGA can do something with me as an up and coming athlete. And as for teams I just ride for a local club now but I don't do too many races. We almost only have crits and I'm not too fond of them. There's only been one race over 25miles for cat5s within a reasonable distance and I couldn't muster a ride to get there. The way I train I'm much better suited for a 40+mile race or very short races thanks to natural strength...I don't do well with the acceleration from 8mph turn after turn in a crit...but I can handle myself on the track pretty well for the little experience I have. I also think I'd very good at time trials anywhere from 8-20 miles so long as there reasonably flat.
As for riding I can never get enough...I rode a 500mile solo week this summer without a single accompanied mile...and my only complaint was my sore butt...I really think I could have done 700+ if I had someone with me the whole time which would have been really nice. So all I need to do is find someone who will always wanna ride, but doesn't mind me complaining when I'm climbing up a lousy hill. Unfortunately its hard enough to find someone who wants to do a 60 mile ride if its over 80 degrees.

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#28 Postby Harley » Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:41 am

I am not a fan of crits either. I much prefer road races and time trials.
Lots of crashes recently in a lot of crits.
As for complaining, I think we all complain about the hills. The hills and the wind. I think I will take hills over the wind though because at least you know when you get tp the top you can easu up a bit. Whereas with the wind it never stops.
Not ride above 80 degrees??
I love the heat and I perform so much better as the air temperature and humidity increase. I need to move somewhere warmer than maine.

I just got 3 vega bars, so I look forward to trying them and seeing which flavor I like the best.

How are the weight workouts coming?

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#29 Postby finbarrio » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:57 pm

Oh, you roadies and your hill complaints. :roll:

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#30 Postby veganpotter » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:54 pm

You northerners(Finn atleast)...I did a few metric centuries this summer with the heat index at 110 and since I was raw it felt no different than when I was heavier and eating my normal vegan diet in the low 90s. Surely Finn...you wouldn't wanna race me in a time trial with 110degree temps...well you might not be so bad if you've got pureed chocolate chip cookies in your cycling pockets. Really I like any temperature over 55 degrees. We'll probably have a week(maybe two) where the highs will be in the low 20s and I'll ride though it...but most of the winter I'll get away with riding in the upper 30s to lower 40s which must sounds almost tropical to you guys. Maybe you two can come down for some "warm" Richmond weather so you guys get get out of the damn woods and get on the road...we can avoid hills if you want harley...and finn can go take laps over and over again over the 3-4 hills in Richmond

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