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 Post subject: Howdy from Salem OR!
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:23 pm 
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Hi! This is Sarah, I live in Salem OR, been Vegan for nearly a year, Vegetarian for about 3 1/2 years. I had about a 6 month break when I became pregnant, and had cravings for stuff I would have NEVER craved... so, if you do not count that 6 months (which I do) I have been Vegetarian for about 10 years. I decided to go vegan because I was near there anyways, cutting cheese, honey and articles of clothing being the only obsticle.

I would like advice as far as my child goes... she likes cheese, and asks for chicken every now and then. Those are the only things that seem to be important for her. She loves most all food, including tofu, beans, tempeh, greens...list goes on. She also seems to have an understanding for why we dont eat anminal products. (Like telling people that eggs are baby chickens, and she doest eat baby chickens. makes great conversation in the grocery store!)

It would not really be a problem, except for the fact that her father lives in Tennessee, and completly changes her diet when she visits. He doesnt believe that a Vegan diet is nutional, and there really is no changing his mind. So, my daughter then gets a totally differan opinon, told that meat is ok to eat... so on an so forth. (father will buy her expensive leather shoes, and she loves them.....how do I tell her that I dont approve?) So, I know this is a hard topic... any advice, ideas, experience, stories are so much appricitated!!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:36 pm 
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Welcome Sarah,

Thanks for joining! You came to the right place. We have lots of vegan parents here. In fact, I was out with loveliberate and his wife and kids last night. All the kids have been vegan since before they were born.

Awesome that you are in Salem too!!!!!! That is right down the road. We have lots of gatherings here in Portland. Yesterday we had one on very short notice and still had about 18 people show up.

So you'll have to join us soon.

Also, check out www.veganholidayfestival.com

You won't want to miss it!

Thanks for joining and welcome aboard!

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 Post subject: Re: Howdy from Salem OR!
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:44 pm 
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Hello & Welcome Sarah! :D

It's always great to have anouther vegan parent join - even better that ya live in the same region! I've been a vegan parent for 10 years now & as Robert mentioned - my kids are all vegan since before birth. I'm happy to answer any questions I can. It definitely seems like a tough situation to have parents with such different views on diet, etc...

Generally I suggest continuing to feed your daughter well when she is with you & to continue to educate her & the father on the value of a vegan diet. You may find it helpful to connect with other vegan parents & kids for support & community. We have quite a few here & there is also a vegan parenting yahoogroup: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/VeganParenting - I know that there is at least 1 member there that is from Salem!

I also suggest encouraging your husband to do research the subject of vegan diets & to have him explain his specific concerns so that you can respond to them. Here's some links to get ya started:

http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/kids.htm
http://www.vegsource.com/parent/growing_vegans.htm
http://www.vegansociety.com/html/people ... _children/

Bye for now! :D

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I think that is great... I am very excited to connect with other Vegan parents. My daughter's father lives in TN because we are no longer together. I have tried educating him on the importance of consistancy w/ our daughter... but its pretty difficult when we are such differant people (precisely why we didnt make it!) so, what I have been doing is just that, keeping her vegan when she is home, which is the majority of the time. She visits her father about 3-4 times a year, from 10-30 days at a time. depending. A big concern of mine is that she is getting two COMPLETLY differant points of view on diet, and nutrition. In some ways, I think it is a good thing, being that she gets diversity... in others tho, I think that at her age, it is just confusing for her...ie: "I dont eat chicken because I dont eat animals...but I still want some" she will say that... and I think she just doesnt totally understand the whole concept, because she is getting such diverse points of view.

I am very interested in meeting other Vegan parents and their kids, if Sophia sees other kids and talks to them a bit... that may help her understand a bit more. :-)

Thanks for the support! I hope I can do the same!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:22 pm 
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Heya Sarah,

Just like everyone else, kids have to make their own choices & come to their own understanding about diet, etc. As parents, our role is to help them make the best & most informed choices that they can. :D

As vegans are a pretty small (though very rapidly growing!) minority right now, it is likely that your daughter would be exposed to non &/or anti-vegan ideas from someone she cared about even if you & her dad were on the same page about the issue.

I definitely think being around other vegans, esp. kids her own age would be very helpful for Sophia (your daughters name?) - so when ya'll coming to visit? :D

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Welcome ! 8)

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:49 pm 
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Welcome to the forum. I dont know if telling your daughter you dont approve of her shoes is the best way to word it. I think that this might make her feel rejected. I assume you buy her non vegan shoes, maybe your daughter does not really recognize the difference. Maybe when you two go to get shoes it would be a good time for a lesson about leather.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:03 am 
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Welcome Sarah!

loveliberate wrote:
Just like everyone else, kids have to make their own choices & come to their own understanding about diet, etc. As parents, our role is to help them make the best & most informed choices that they can. :D


As a vegan father I agree completely to that!

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