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 Post subject: Hello from Paris, France
PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:52 pm 
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Hi,
I'm 22 years old and I've been vegan for 3 months.
I (re)started bodybuilding 2 weeks ago. I found this site while I was looking for vegan weightgainer.
Now, thanks to Bigwii's signature I'm aware of raw food diet. I tried this diet, but it's so hard to give up the taste of cooked food.
My bodybuilding method is based on body weight because the gym is expensive and I can work out everywhere.

The more I read about vegetarism the more I feel confident about my diet change. Yet I have a real hard time with my friends and family. Being vegan in France is somehow like being a drug addict. Now they look at me as if it was my last breath.

This community seems to be very cool. At last I have a source of advise.

Thank you for existing.
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hey welcome!

I've often heard that france must be the vegan hell on earth :/


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Welcome, Pim. Yeah, France must be a tough place for vegans, but hey, North America's no picnic either. As for friends and family not believing in your choice, well, I think that's something most of us go thru.

You can accomplish a lot with body weight only. I rarely pick up a weight (I'm not a bodybuilder) - you've already checked out bigbwii's site - he's a great resource. You could do parkour, being that you live in the land of parkour. I'm not a traceur myself, but go out with friends from time to time and rip it up. Anyway, you found a good bunch of vegans here.

http://parkour.net/index.php?sel_lang=english&lang=fr

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Welcome. There's a number of bodyweight exercise people here, so there's definitley some common interest here for you.

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Welcome Pim! Good to have you join us here!

I have many very fond memories of Paris!

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Bonjour! :)


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:17 pm 
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Trev, I've also checked your website. It's been the source of a discussion between me and my mother. She cannot admit that it's more important to stop eating meat than hardly save a galon water while having a shower...
Anyway I like the design of your site.

Thank you for the parkour idea, I'll check this out.

edit : salut SeaSiren :)


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:05 pm 
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Salut Pim. I took a few years of french. I learned very little.


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Welcome Pim!

Great to have you here. I'm glad you found our site. You're right, we do have a great community here and you'll not only learn lots of great information but make some really cool friends as well.

We have lots of raw food athletes here and also quite a few people into bodyweight exercises too.

Explore around and you'll get questions answered. Thanks again for finding us and welcome aboard!

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Hello & Welcome Pim! :D

I have not heard that France was a particularly tough place to be vegan... I want to visit France someday - I'd appreciate suggestions of where & what to check out when/if I do make it over there. Have ya seen this: http://happycow.net/europe/france/paris/index.html ?

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Welcome to the forums :D

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Hey Pim! :D


It's a long time ago that i last visited Paris... wasn't even vegan back then, so it must have been last millenium :shock:

I can recommend the book "Vegan Freak" to you :D It's great for all vegans who feel like an alien in the unvegan society.

Peace :)

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:54 am 
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loveliberate wrote:
Hello & Welcome Pim! :D

I have not heard that France was a particularly tough place to be vegan... I want to visit France someday - I'd appreciate suggestions of where & what to check out when/if I do make it over there. Have ya seen this: http://happycow.net/europe/france/paris/index.html ?


I've never been to the USA, but I'd love to. I went to England last year, and it didn't take long for me to notice the "V" sign on food packing. We don't even have that in France. Ask for a vegetarian meal at any given place, first they'll treat you as an alien, and then they'll come back with a ham and butter sandwich. Maybe it's not the toughest place for vegan, but I don't want to know what it is.

Paris is a very touristic city, you'll have to face overcrowded sites. There is much to say. First, I know a cheap 2 stars hotel that worth 3, but as long as they don't have an extra room per floor they cannot get this 3th star. Still the sight over the north of Paris is amazing there. Then it depends on what you want to see, what you are interested in. There a lot of museum, churches, old buildings, gardens, modern useless buildings and so on. Before christmas there are lights every where (even in my district), each year they increase the number of light.
Spring is the best moment in the year. Not too crowded, good weather, good light.
There are also some interesting place in the subburbs of Paris. You can also visit other regions, full of cute small town and local products.
Feel free to ask me more about what you are interested in.

I've only been vegan for three months, so I didn't really seek for vegan restaurant, plus I'm the only vegan among my friends...
In fact I already know one place. "Le paradis du fruit" (the fruit heaven). They serve delightfull fruitjuice. I'll try one at random in the next days.
Anyway being vegan is saddly not the best way to fully enjoy french food.

Thanks everyone for your reception.


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Welcome Pim!
Since I am in the Northwest of Germany we are "neighbours" :D

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:16 pm 
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Pim!

Thank you for your prompt and helpful reply. I hope that you make it over to the US, and if you do then please visit us in Portland, Oregon. Not only is this is a very nice city in an amazing region - we are also considered to be the best city for vegans in north america. Most of the other best vegan places are within a days drive of Portland. Is there anywhere particular in the US that you'd like to visit? We are an amazingly large and diverse country...

There are also many parts of the US where being vegetarian is still considered to be very weird or unusual and being vegan is virtually unheard of. Things are changing quickly though! When I became vegan in the early 1990s it was a much less well known or understood choice. Now there are many, many more options available for vegan food, etc in the US.

I would enjoy visiting Paris at least once. What is the cost for a "cheap 2 star hotel" there on average?

Generally, I avoid large cities and overly touristy areas - I prefer smaller towns, open land, lands, mountains and forests. I'd appreciate suggestions for anywhere but generally the area's in and around the Pyrenees, Alps, the Jura's & the Massif Central seem promising.

While I'd like to visit everywhere in Europe (& the world! :lol: ) - France seems like the most appealing country in Europe overall as a place to call home. Switzerland & Italy also seem exceptionally nice for my interests...

Please do offer suggestions and please ask any questions you have about the US! :D

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