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 Post subject: Re: I'm ready! Let's do this!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:57 am 
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I was feeling great today! I definitely had a lot of energy! :boxer: Anyways...


November 22, 2008

Breakfast: 1 Bartlett pear
Snack: 1 Bartlett pear
Lunch: 1 Bartlett pear
Snack: 1 Bartlett pear

Exercise: 2 mile walk and 2 hours of exercise (1 hour of it being weight exercises)

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 Post subject: Re: I'm ready! Let's do this!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:56 am 
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That ain't a lot of food. What does the scale show?

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 Post subject: Re: I'm ready! Let's do this!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:32 pm 
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xjohanx wrote:
That ain't a lot of food. What does the scale show?


Well, it may not be much food, but that's all I appear to need to make it through the day, and then some. I'm not forcing myself to eat and get so full and tired. Lately, I've been listening to my body, avoiding junkfood cravings, and sticking to eating only when I feel hungry. And apparently, doing so has given me more energy and has made me feel a lot better.

As for the scale, I had completely forgotten about it for a while! I've been so happy with the results so far (especially mentally and emotionally) and so determined to continue this healthy path, that I finally have not been constantly checking the scale. Though, since you asked, I went and checked, and apparently I'm at 205 pounds. Seems like not too much of a loss, compared to my last weigh-in, so I doubt it's anything to be worrying about. I think once I stick to a certain diet, my body knows how to lose the weight at its own pace. So, I just don't worry about it that much anymore. All that matters to me is to eat healthy and to exercise for fun. :)

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 Post subject: Re: I'm ready! Let's do this!
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November 23, 2008

Breakfast: 1 Bartlett pear
Snack: 1 Bartlett pear
Lunch: 1 Bartlett pear
Snack: 2 Bartlett pears

Exercise: 6 mile walk

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 Post subject: Re: I'm ready! Let's do this!
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November 24, 2008

Breakfast: 1 Bartlett pear
Snack: 1 Bartlett pear
Lunch: 1 Bartlett pear
Snack: 1 Bartlett pear

Exercise: 2 mile walk

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 Post subject: Re: I'm ready! Let's do this!
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November 25, 2008

Breakfast: 1 Bartlett pear
Snack: 1/4 pineapple
Lunch: 1/4 pineapple
Snack: 2 Bartlett pears

Exercise: 4 mile walk

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 Post subject: Re: I'm ready! Let's do this!
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:12 pm 
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Tigerbella...

I peak into your journal every time you post. And this morning, I so debated whether or not I should post on your journal because I think when people post on other's journals, it should be to be ENCOURAGING...

So, here is my comment to you... I so admire your CONSISTENCY and DISCIPLINE on your journey to lose weight. Truly... I see that you are even more consistent than me, and I admire these qualities in people. I don't feel that a fruitarian diet is healthy and I think there are many on this board who feel the same way.. and that's probably why you had so many people post on here when you were eating lentil soup, grains and veggies as well.

So do I continue to post on your journal if I don't feel what you're doing is healthy? I don't know... this is something that I grapple within myself because nutrition is such a passion of mine.

I'm kind of just airing my thoughts aloud here.. But it honestly makes me sad when I see someone continually posting to their journal with no one commenting or responding or encouraging them. So I at least wanted to give you my reason of why I may pull back from posting on your journal. If people posted on my journal...I would want them to be encouraging...not debate my lifestyle.... so I wanted to post one more time to at least give you some compliments on your discipline and consistency.

So I'll leave it at that :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: I'm ready! Let's do this!
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:24 pm 
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To be honest I had the same thoughts myself..

Tigrebella, I like you. I think you're an awesome person, but I think your diet right now is too strict and I'm worried about you! I was afraid to post something before because I didn't want you to take it the wrong way.. But I think it's important to get it out in the open. After all, it's your health we're talking about.


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 Post subject: Re: I'm ready! Let's do this!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:35 am 
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You know, I've been debating with myself on whether or not I should keep posting here. I somehow knew I would not be understood. Even though I feel healthier than ever before, and am not restricting myself from eating. I've been worrying each time I post, wondering if someone would complain about my proteins or my calories or whatever...and it's happened, but I calmly continued on. Though it's just adding more stress to my life, worrying about people judging me and such.

veggieprincess, why do you feel a fruitarian diet is not healthy? Because doctors think it isn't? Because our society thinks it isn't? Because of how you were taught? I'm not gonna follow along with what everyone else does just because they say it's the safest healthiest route and warn of dangers of steering away from what the majority believe. I mean, come on...that's like meat-eaters believing a vegan diet is not healthy! How is it any different? It's not! People usually like sticking to their one belief and not bother considering that another way is good too.

I'm still getting nutrition, my body seems happy and healthy, and I feel like I'm in better shape than I've ever been! I'm not promoting that this way is for everyone, but I believe it's working for me. I'm only eating what I believe my body's telling me it wants...if it wants a certain fruit, I'll eat that certain fruit...if it later wants greens or nuts/seeds, I'll eat greens or nuts/seeds. I am getting more in tune with my body than ever before. I find that if I force myself to eat more calories just to please other people's standards, I feel sick and weighed down, so I only eat when I'm hungry and have small servings (which oddly, last for a long while before I get hungry again). I have lots more energy, and am starting to need a little less sleep at night. I could perhaps go to the doctor to get everything checked to prove I am healthy, but why? Not only can I not afford to, but I don't feel I need to prove anything to anyone.

And you're right. Not many people are commenting on my post anymore. Obviously people here don't want to see something so very different from what they're used to. They like to stick to standardized things...like this much protein, or that many calories, or this, or that...etc. Obviously what I do scares them, and they don't think it's possible to be healthy like this.

Why debate my lifestyle, though? Is it because it's unsafe? Impossible? Who says so? There's so much unknown in this world. I'm not about to trust what others think is the truth. Heck, so many people are brainwashed to believe lies, so how am I expected to trust what anyone says? The only (and most important) one for me to trust is my body. Our bodies have truely amazing ways of protecting us, communicating with us, and letting us know what's good and bad...if only we allow them to. Long before man wrote down standard ways for healthy living, I'm sure people already knew how to live healthy by listening more to their bodies. Why should we follow certain standard ways when no one knows our own bodies better than ourselves? For example, when we're sick, we take all sorts of medicine, but our bodies may be wanting us to fast until it can heal us on its own. When we get a fever, we take medicine to get rid of it, but it's our bodies' way of healing us. Our bodies have a way of knowing how to heal us from the inside without man-made medicine or doctors. Yet we rely on what we are told to do.

I'm not trying to get on you about your response, but just trying to explain my point of view. Anyway, I've decided to stop posting my daily diet here. I'd rather not keep worrying what others think, and worry more about what my body wants. I may still keep posting around on the boards, though, and maybe post updates, but I'm done here. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: I'm ready! Let's do this!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:53 am 
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If veggieP and Marcina hadn't said anything, I was going to speak up. An occasional, limited, fruit fast is not a bad thing. An imbalanced diet can lead to imbalances in your reasoning and emotions as well as slow muscle development, detox and weight loss goals. We like you and support you and want the best of health for you. :!:

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 Post subject: Re: I'm ready! Let's do this!
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My biggest worry was that Tigrebella was developing an eating disorder. It's very common for people to restrict their diets when going through that. I went through it a couple times.. It's tough.. And you don't really realize you have a problem until someone speaks up or one day you crash from low energy levels or something.

That's the only reason I posted. It's a delicate matter, and I don't really know how to go about bringing it up. I could also be wrong and look like an ass.


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 Post subject: Re: I'm ready! Let's do this!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:34 pm 
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I'm not ganging up on you, but I agree with what John V, Marcina, and veggieprincess have posted. Where you may feel fine with this fruit only diet, maybe you'd feel even better if you weren't as strict. And quite possibly you might also lose weight faster, get stronger, and have a better metabolism with more variety in the foods that you eat. But if you still have loads of energy, don't feel weak, and are not depriving yourself maybe this is the right choice for you. I mean there are plenty of people out there that don't think a vegan diet is healthy, but it can be if done the right way. Anyway whatever you continue to do I hope you have much success! :D

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 Post subject: Re: I'm ready! Let's do this!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:46 pm 
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Hmm if you wish to be fruitarian that's your choice. I think you should supplement with B12, eat some leafy greens and def more fruit! I don't know how big those pears are but it seems like awfully little food.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm ready! Let's do this!
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John V wrote:
If veggieP and Marcina hadn't said anything, I was going to speak up. An occasional, limited, fruit fast is not a bad thing. An imbalanced diet can lead to imbalances in your reasoning and emotions as well as slow muscle development, detox and weight loss goals. We like you and support you and want the best of health for you. :!:


I figured you all mean well...that's why I didn't totally flip out, and instead kept my cool and explained my situation. :wink:

Marcina wrote:
My biggest worry was that Tigrebella was developing an eating disorder. It's very common for people to restrict their diets when going through that. I went through it a couple times.. It's tough.. And you don't really realize you have a problem until someone speaks up or one day you crash from low energy levels or something.

That's the only reason I posted. It's a delicate matter, and I don't really know how to go about bringing it up. I could also be wrong and look like an ass.


Trust me, there's no eating disorder here. I'm doing perfectly fine, and listening to my body's needs. If I get any symptoms from my body showing me that something's wrong, I'll quickly work to fix it. But lately, I seem to only be getting healthier. I don't know if it's due to the more raw diet, or due to me not having such bad junkfood desires anymore, but my body just seems to have enough with the little food I eat. And being that I still have a lot of fat on me, maybe my body's wanting to use up more of the fat right now rather than get all of its energy from food? I think that might be what's going on. I can assure you I'm not depriving myself of food, though. :)

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I'm not ganging up on you, but I agree with what John V, Marcina, and veggieprincess have posted. Where you may feel fine with this fruit only diet, maybe you'd feel even better if you weren't as strict. And quite possibly you might also lose weight faster, get stronger, and have a better metabolism with more variety in the foods that you eat. But if you still have loads of energy, don't feel weak, and are not depriving yourself maybe this is the right choice for you. I mean there are plenty of people out there that don't think a vegan diet is healthy, but it can be if done the right way. Anyway whatever you continue to do I hope you have much success! :D


I don't find I'm being strict on myself. I allow myself to eat more, but as I've said before, my body seems to not crave more food. Also, I think I'm still losing fat, but also gaining muscle, which would explain the scale not budging much between my last two weigh-ins...I noticed my clothes fit a little looser on me again lately, and have started feeling more stronger. I think, given time, the scale will budge more and we'll see more physical results. I've been able to walk a couple miles or so everyday, and been restricting myself to weight exercises every other day lately (despite my energy to want to do more). My husband finds that I'm now easily able to handle the shorter route to Costcutter (which has a higher hill), rather than the slightly longer route (which was easier for me to handle before)...and before, going up that higher hill would leave me breathless and in pain, whereas now it's a breeze to get through! I find I'm much more happier and less tired now. :D

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Hmm if you wish to be fruitarian that's your choice. I think you should supplement with B12, eat some leafy greens and def more fruit! I don't know how big those pears are but it seems like awfully little food.


Oh, no worries! My women's vitamins that I'm taking has vitamin B12, along with a long list of other vitamins and minerals, and even superfood extracts (such as wheatgrass, spirulina, etc.). I'm not against eating leafy greens, but right now my body just doesn't seem to want that...I am starting to get cravings for nuts (perhaps cashews), though, so I'll probably pick some up at the store soon. As for the pears...when we started buying them, they were about average size, I guess...just recently, the ones we've bought were bigger. I know it doesn't seem like much food, and I was a bit worried about it at first myself...but I found that if I made myself eat what would be considered enough (calorie-wise) or close to enough, that I felt more tired and weighed down, and I just didn't feel right. So, now I don't give in to pressure about it and just let my body guide me. And since doing that, I've been feeling wonderful! :)

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 Post subject: Re: I'm ready! Let's do this!
PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:52 pm 
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Nope, the human body needs at least 800 calories every day or it goes into starvation mode and clings on to the fat in your body. This is why a lot of anorexics run a constant a cycle called "2468" where day 1 they eat 200 calories, day 2 they eat 400, day three they eat 600 and then day 4 800 to trick their metabolism out of starvation mode. 4 Barlett pears a day is 400 calories, maybe less. I'm not suggesting you do this.


I think this is wayyy overhyped.

Tigrebella, I'm proud of your progress! Though I don't agree with this diet, I do know that it can be beneficial in the short term, and to me you look a whole lot healthier. Nice job with that! :)

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