HIT Rob wrote:
No worries mate,
Indeed that's what John is saying, we all have a genetic medicated limit. However their are many who fail to recognize this.
I would have to say Chris, i find machines fatigue my muscle's more so than free weights do, probably due to the fact i can achieve greater muscular contractions. I've encountered quite a few hitters who've said the same, so possibly adding a little more volume when using free weights is wouldn't hurt, experiment and see how ya go with it:)
As Mike pointed out the other day, this type of training can take a while for the individual to develop the neuromuscular efficiency require to "let it all hang out" in just one set, so again perhaps you may require 2-3 sets. Markus Reinhardt sums it up perfectly in this short video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyeMgu_xUyk
For myself, I've been doing this for years ,when i go to failure there's no way in hell i could perform a second set to failure, even if i waited an hour lol. In fact a 15-20 minute workout leaves me generally fatigued for sometimes several days after. But this is what is required Chris, we must literately threaten our own physiology when we train, the body will take this on board and to protract itself from future assaults of the same magnitude it'll come back stronger. For those who believe one should leave the gym feeling "invigorated" i can only say they are sorely mistaken:))
Best wishes and good luck
Rob - you said it man! I read through the majority of Mentzer's HIT the Mentzer Way book today while I got the brakes on my car fixed. REALLY makes a ton of sense! I never really got his "every rep prior to failure is just a warmup" until today, but now it makes total sense. Also, I tend to be pretty literal, so that explains my initial hesitation regarding being able to feel satisfied with one set. I trained upper body again today, as I didn't feel sore any longer from last Tuesday's training. I still did two sets for everything, but, I felt much more fatigued after each one - as in, immediately after - so I think I got a taste at least of what you are talking about. In time I'll get better at it I'm sure. Either way, Mentzer was obviously VERY smart, as well as physically gifted. He was HUGE! Thanks for turning me on to his teachings mate, really opened my eyes.
ps. I can totally see how one would like using machines, not only for better range of motion, more restrictive tracking, but also, less fear of killing yourself while lifting heavy weights to failure. If I couldn't raise the bar back up doing bench press while training at home (alone), I'd have a long wait til my wife got home from work to call for help!