veganpotter wrote:xveganjoshx wrote:It kind of bothers me the way many vegan diets stress low protein. I think it gives the illusion that we, as vegans, can't get in large amounts of protein, and concede with "well you don't need much to build muscle anyway". I used to think that it would be hard to get 200 g protein per day. Not true.... I get 200 g a day without thinking about it, which is slightly over 1 g per pound bodyweight. I eat over 50 g protein per meal, and I'm eating 5-6 times a day, so I have days where I'm easily getting 300 g a day. I find the range of 1.3-2 grams protein/pound bodyweight to be effective for muscle building. So definately not excessive.
Also, you must consider, as VeggiePrincess noted, some of the women that you have mentioned have very different goals then people in the bodybuilding/fitness industry. And even though some of those women might look muscular to you, the look they have is going to be very different than someone who is competing in BBing, according to the judges and the fitness community.
The thing is everything we do is excessive. Our training is excessive...our obsession with improvement is obsessive and out diets are obsessive whether that be to minimize or maximize things. I have eaten 12,000 calories a day as a ruitine and that was excessive. It worked for my excessive desires and training. Its all excessive and thats what people like us are all about. As for the triathletes all I'm saying is that they have no muscular goals whatsoever and they diet they eat is to the complete opposite of what most fitness competitors eat...they train in a manner that many would see as depleting of muscle mass yet in reality in the off season when they aren't working on intensity they are even more muscular typically on even less food. I've seen many of these women in person and if they dieted for a week they'd be able to compete onstage with many top level natural BB inspite of the fact they don't even come close to 1g per lbs and the training they do is training you'd tell someone not to do because it makes people lose muscle.
Great Points Potter. I second this !