Bigbwii wrote:I learnt that supplements are a hot subject for people you will always have the for's and againts. When I was fruitarian people always said I had to eat greens or I would die! now I'm in the same boat as Kollision even if I wanted to I couldn't because of money! these things are designed for you to be coming back to buy more at some stage! I really don't believe that they work anyway and the ones that do " the live stuff" are real expensive!
B12 is a funny vitamin because it's so unaccessable! why is it so unaccessable, there's got to be a reason? what are we doing wrong that we are missing out on getting regular top ups? if we were stuck on a island how would we get this vitamin, would we kill an animal for it, eat dirt? is getting it from fortified foods really that safe? is it so unaccessable because we make it in our intestines like animals do? How do you get so deficient in this that you get ill, is it our diets? Why do we have to manufacture it?I just don't get it!!!
Nicely stated. I personally don't plan on living long, just me I don't even know how to take this idea. People claim that milk does a body good, yet others say we can't even absorb the calcium. Imagine if a vegan told someone else that milk doesn't work, they would be laughed at. I believe we are sort of in the same boat, just against each other in regards of B12.
VeganEssentials wrote:I definitely don't want to come off as lecturing because I neither have a well-balanced diet nor do I have a great supplementation routine, that's for sure.
However, I do think that for the very few things we as vegans should worry about dietary-wise, B-12 shouldn't be neglected for how easy it is to obtain. Getting more than you need isn't going to damage your health, but having a deficiency will be something that you obviously do NOT want to experience (see the B-12 thread for a story regarding that!) We often assume that because we eat "healthy" foods that we could never have a problem, and I'd hate to see people have to suffer because they thought that supplementing something essential for proper function isn't a valid thing to do. As you can see in the other thread, there can be issues with our bodies' absorption potential, and the miniscule amount of some vitamins that we sometimes get might not be enough through everyday eating, particularly if it is like B-12 and not an easy thing to find in your daily vegan meals. I may carry some spare weight on me which isn't necessarily the greatest thing, but I sure don't plan on simple supplementation to prevent potential illness that could steal months of my life!
I know that money is really tight for some people, but we have to ask ourselves, when an item costs something in the range of 5 cents per day for a dose, can we REALLY say that we don't spend far more than that on something we could easily eliminate from our daily habit once or twice to pay for it? Coffee, soft drinks, a Clif bar....we all have our indulgences that we don't consider to be frivolous, but all it takes is denying them once in a while to afford things that really matter. I think proper insurance for our health should come at the top of this, even if it isn't "fun" to think about.
Sorry, getting a bit carried away here. I just think that being vegan and being healthy go hand-in-hand and I'd hate to see anyone pay the price with their health for something really simple and preventable. The choice is ultimately everyone's to decide, but if the time comes that something does in fact happen, you can't undo the damage.
I wasn't talking about you Vegan I don't make my own income, and I am hesitant at even buying food to eat because of prices. I dont go out to get things that I don't need, and when that even pops in my head, I still save my money.
I am healthy right now, and I am happy. If my B12 stores get depleted, its none of my concern. Like I mentioned above, I don't plan on living long either way
Guillermo wrote:It costs $2.19 for a carton of soymilk fortified with B12 at my local supermarket. Have you tried shopping around?
Its about 4 something down here.