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 Post subject: teen mass
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 3:26 pm 
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Hi guys I'm a 16 year old smallish guy, I've been vegetarian all my life and have been working out the last year or so.
I've gained muscle, but not increase in overall size.
so if i look in a mirror with my head chopped off i look ripped but as soon as i stand back my head looks huge.
im not sure if my head is big, or my chest is small, so whats the best exercises for bulk, and what would you eat.
as a vegetarian i eat some eggs but would rather move away rather than start mixing dozens into smoothies

sugestions would be appreciated :o

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 Post subject: Re: teen mass
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:33 am 
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Count yourself lucky you apparently have a high metabolism. Given your age, you could probably eat everything under the sun, and if you're lifting heavy, grow insane amounts of muscle. So, congrats! I'd recommend focusing on compound exercises (bench, squat, deadlift, shoulder press, rows, pullups) and supplement with HIIT cardio. For food, it depends on how you feel about consuming larger quantities of tofu/tempeh, and other higher protein veg sources. If it's organic, I think you'll be fine. Just make sure you get your greens, and supplement with fruits and other veggies like broccoli and sweet potatos for energy. You'll be fine. If you want to gain mass, figure out how many calories you need to consume to maintain your current weight, and add 250-500 calories to that per day. You'll be huge in no time. If the gains are slow, eat more, lift more, and cut out some of the cardio. The cardio is there to minimize body fat.

Make sure you rest up too.

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 Post subject: Re: teen mass
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:45 am 
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thanks, i like to stay away from soy. but i came across a hemp protein powder, are they all gimmick for people that just don't want to lift, and professionals or is it worth supplementing with protein .
i never stop eating, so ye i must have a fast metabolism or some thing.
im also finding this interval fasting thing interesting. I'm no expert but could a fast metabolism be cased by eating to much for to long, I thought it was a bad thing when it comes to lifting ?

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 Post subject: Re: teen mass
PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:50 pm 
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seanE wrote:
thanks, i like to stay away from soy. but i came across a hemp protein powder, are they all gimmick for people that just don't want to lift, and professionals or is it worth supplementing with protein .
i never stop eating, so ye i must have a fast metabolism or some thing.
im also finding this interval fasting thing interesting. I'm no expert but could a fast metabolism be cased by eating to much for to long, I thought it was a bad thing when it comes to lifting ?


Nothing wrong with soy, if you can find organic/non-gmo. Anyhow, I've always found myself leaner when taking in a good amount of protein. So, no, protein powders aren't really a gimmick. Some people think so, such as those on the 80/10/10 diet. But they are of a different breed.

As far as interval fasting, I'm guessing you mean only eating in a short window of time each day, and then eating as much as possible, or whatever you want. I've never tried that. I've always been happier when consuming six smaller meals per day, which keeps my metabolism humming along. I wouldn't recommend you toying with fasting. I don't remember how old you are, exactly, but you might have considerable growing left to do, and I wouldn't want you to mess that up just by trying something out.

Fast metabolism for you is predominantly due to your age. For you, given your age, you could probably consume everything under the sun, and as long as you are lifting regularly, and heavy and hard each time, you'll do nothing but build muscle. I wish I had known that when I was your age. I'd be a hell of a lot bigger now. People can alter their metabolism by exercising. The more exercise, the more active the metabolism. The more muscle, the more calories required to maintain that muscle, and fuel activity.

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 Post subject: Re: teen mass
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:20 am 
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Hi, me again, I'm after ordering organic hemp protein powder, and Creatine online, i don't want to be one of them guys that spend all there wage on supplements, but i thought id give it a try, i also herd Creatine gives you mad dreams which would be cool, regarding soy id rather stay away from it, i think 98percent of it in the US is GMO and with pollen and all that, so if you could let me know if there any thing I should know about taking supplements that would be great.

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 Post subject: Re: teen mass
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:57 am 
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Hi Sean

I was against using supplements up until few months ago, but as ive mentioned on my log and elsewhere, since including glucose, pre digested BCAA's and creatine pre, intra and post workout my rate of recovery and workout productivity has improved immensely. Post workout the glucose is as important - if not more important than the BCAA's, without it, the BCAA's are used to replenish glycogen stores.

Btw, the hemp protein is great in energy balls, I make mine with coconut oil, flaxseeds, cashews, organic dried blueberries, maple syrup, and the hemp protein, tastes great:)

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 Post subject: Re: teen mass
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:12 am 
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Thanks, I've a friend that doesn't workout, but swears by glucose he says it makes you smarter, do you take it for energy ¿, I've fond my self yawning a lot lately when working out, iv never had that problem before. i forgot to mention the brand of creatine i bought was optimum nutrition, is that a good brand, i read some where it can make you sterile, ''that kind of put me off a bit'' but then i read the opposite, and that it increases testosterone, then i read it decreases T, the the opposite again. if i could only get my hands on people that spread misinformation.

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 Post subject: Re: teen mass
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:05 pm 
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Your friend is right Sean, glucose is the primary source of fuel for the brain....as well as high intensity muscular contractions, which is why I take it pre and intra workout, post workout I take it for glycogen replenishment and to spar the BCAA's.
Good point on the creatine, ive been reading similar things, one study i read about on sciencealert.com, found that men have up to a 177% chance of developing testicular cancer, of course there were other factors involvedsuch as diet and lifestyle, but it made me think, its made me reduce amount I use (3g per day).

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 Post subject: Re: teen mass
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:16 pm 
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Their is nothing wrong with creatine and yes that is a good brand. Creatine is the most researched supplement out there. For gaining weight try nuts and peanut or almond butter calorie dense food. Satisfies my sweet tooth


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 Post subject: Re: teen mass
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:42 pm 
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All that plus eat more FOOD.

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 Post subject: Re: teen mass
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:25 am 
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Eiji wrote:
All that plus eat more FOOD.


I'm not so sure about that anymore, I've seen and spoken with far too many that have increased their lean mass without any dietary changes. They were training hard, getting adequate rest, staying well hydrated and they were consuming a well balanced diet. It makes sense to me given that there's research that's shown lean mass can be increased on a near starvation diet.


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 Post subject: Re: teen mass
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:47 am 
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HIT Rob wrote:
I'm not so sure about that anymore...It makes sense to me given that there's research that's shown lean mass can be increased on a near starvation diet.


What BS research demonstrates that? That is probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.


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 Post subject: Re: teen mass
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:16 pm 
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There has been studies conducted at Harvard University that indicated that muscle can be built on a starvation diet...IF, and only IF a the first requisite of building bigger and stronger muscles, ie a proper training stress is present. The first concern of the body with regards to growing bigger and stronger muscles, is that it must be taxed / stimulated by way of a threating stress, only then does nutrition become a concern.

The notion that bodybuilding is 85% diet or that we should consume 6 or more meals a day, or that we should consume thousands of calories above our maintenance level (bulk) is simply retarded. As I mentioned, I seen and spoken with far too many individuals that have transformed the physiques with no real dietary changes.


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 Post subject: Re: teen mass
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:06 pm 
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That's ridiculous and why you see so many huge labor camp survivors. You can't build without materials. Something never comes from nothing.

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 Post subject: Re: teen mass
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:21 am 
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The research shows a degree of muscle can actually be built on a starvation diet (albeit fairly short term research), as long as the proper training stress is present AND a sufficient recovery period followed. But this is not my point, the point is, people have transformed their physiques with no addition to their diets. Ive a friend who's been powerlifted in the same weight division for years, hes now a bodybuilder (same weight) and he looks completely different, hes leaner, stronger than ever, and his muscularity is outstanding,YET he has never upped his calories.


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