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 Post subject: Want a BIG Squat?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:07 am 
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Stretch Your Piriformis/Periformis! This info below has been a lifesaver for me!

The following is from http://www.theironsamurai.com...

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If you keep saying that you want a big squat, but every time you get serious about it, you begin to develop either back pain or the symptoms of sciatica, then I may have a solution for you. This used to happen to me, too, before I realized the importance of stretchin’ that butt! Now, I squat AT LEAST 5 times a week most of the year, sometimes up to 9 times a week.

Don’t be stupid! If you have back pain, you’re best off seeing a doctor and finding out what it is. It may be that you have a real issue that needs addressing that a blog-article just can’t help you with.

But, if you’re like me (and like most serious lifters) one of your problems might be your uber-tight periformis muscles in your glutes.

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The periformis is a small muscle in your buttocks. And unfortunately for you, it butts up (wink!) right against your sciatic nerve. So every time it gets inflamed and swollen (like after you squat), it puts pressure on the nerve and makes you feel like something is wrong with your back.

There are a couple things you can do to deal with this problem. The first is simply to “roll” it out.

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Take a tennis ball (or if you’re hardcore, a lacrosse ball) and mimic what the woman in the pic above is doing (If you’re doing it right, you won’t be smiling like she is … it hurts, people). Another way to do it is to take the tennis ball, while standing, and place it between a doorjam and your glutes. Press. Hard. I do this in the morning when I wake up, and at night before I go to bed.

The next thing you got to do is to stretch out the periformis ALL THE TIME. I do twice a day, at least, every day. If I do, I can squat all the time. If I don’t , I can’t squat at all. It’s that important.

Here’s a vid by K-Star, with the cyclist Levi Leipheimer, showing a good stretch for this pesky muscle (it also gets the old IT band, which is another pain in the arse for heavy squatters):



BTW, if you don’t already do so, check out K-Star’s mobility workouts of the day. Many of these will make your lifting life a lot easier, keep pain away, and allow you to train your butt off (almost literally) every day. Maybe now you can get that triple (or quadruple!) bodyweight squat that your Mamma always wanted you to have.

To quote K Starr:

Take a good look in the mirror and make a better decision. There is always more power to be had.

AMEN, brother.

Author: Nick Horton, coach of the PDX Olympic Weightlifting team in Portland.


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 Post subject: Re: Want a BIG Squat?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:56 am 
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Funnily enough a month or 2 ago for a few weeks in a row I was getting pains in my left leg around the ITB band near the top (as far as I could tell anyway). Couldn't put my finger on what it was. Then once I noticed when i put shoes on when seated, for my right shoe I'd just pop my right foot on my left knee (like the girl in that pic) no problem . But for my left foot I would always lean down to the foot to put the shoe on. So I tried to whip my left foot onto my right knee, couldn't do it unassisted - when I pulled it up it was an intense stretch on that side, right up where I was getting tightness when squatting.

Now when I put my shoes on when sitting down I force myself to stretch my leg, the pain disappeared!

Anyway, guess that was unrelated. I've tried hitting the glutes with the foam roller before - never hits the spot. I'll be trying a ball next. Cheers!

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 Post subject: Re: Want a BIG Squat?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:58 pm 
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I only do an exercise once a week, so I think I'm fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Want a BIG Squat?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:42 am 
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@ Chewy - I think it's totally related and I hope this helps! Though, as was mentioned it hurts like none other!
I mean, I thought I was going to pass out the first time I did it! HAHAHA!
BUTT, it makes a HUGE difference! (pun fully intended)

@Dallas - sorry to hear that. j/k :wink: To each their own! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Want a BIG Squat?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:22 am 
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Tried it today with a tennis ball (all I've got really). Started moving about the fleshy part of my glutes didn't really feel anything, but when I moved to the side and started rolling up and down was hitting a REAL tight spot there. The only problem I'm having is keeping my left foot on my right leg, need to keep stretching that. Everytime I was getting into it my foot kept slipping off.

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 Post subject: Re: Want a BIG Squat?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:24 pm 
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Stick with it Chewy. I have the same problem...that, and my balance. Sometimes I just fall right over. lol


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 Post subject: Re: Want a BIG Squat?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:43 am 
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Done it again at workout last night when warming up. After squats, sat on the bench for my warmup bench press and man I was feeling it. Still feel it this morning, like it's bruised or something lol. The tennis ball has earned it's way into my gym bag.

Will definitely stick at it, means it's overly tight. Got the exact same thing when I started foam rolling the first time.

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 Post subject: Re: Want a BIG Squat?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:18 pm 
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Here's a couple of links to add to the mix...the first one is for lower body foam rolling in general and the second one is specifically for the ITB (iliotibial band) - stretching & strengthening.

http://www.physioadvisor.com.au/1104465 ... dvisor.htm

http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=6099


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 Post subject: Re: Want a BIG Squat?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:12 am 
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Wow that girl probably spots more than me, and she's using good form, lol.

But thank you for the information I will have to try these little exercises out sometime.

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 Post subject: Re: Want a BIG Squat?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:17 pm 
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fatburningfurnace wrote:
Wow that girl probably spots more than me, and she's using good form, lol.

But thank you for the information I will have to try these little exercises out sometime.


Yeah, it was a little demotivating for me to see her front squatting too much for me to think about! LOL

Hope the exercises help! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Want a BIG Squat?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:21 am 
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chewybaws wrote:
Still feel it this morning, like it's bruised or something lol
After a few more days of doing this I realised it was bruised.

I'd recommend a larger and softer ball than a tennis ball for first time users lol.

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 Post subject: Re: Want a BIG Squat?
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Chewy! OUCH! good suggestion! I probably should have mentioned that I started out with a basketball and moved to the tennis ball, baseball bat and then to a glass sphere about the size of a softball.


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