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 Post subject: Training an SO w/o getting in trouble?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:10 pm 
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Hi all
It's been awhile since I've been around! I've been focusing on my stair climbing for competitions, shying away from weights.

So my fiance(e?) wants me to train her. Originally, i suggested she get a personal trainer, but at our gym, they all seem to be highschool dropouts who just want to push powders, and at $50 a session, that seems like a bit of a waste.

I was hoping for some suggestions on how to get started.
She likes to do spinning, so i figure that's probably all the cardio she's going to do. Running and stairclimbing are out.

What kind of weight training program and schedule would be best to start for a fairly petite mid 20s gal? She says she wants better arms, but I know better than to attempt to focus on one thing. Should she be doing bench presses? bicep curls? pullups (assisted at first)? She's worried about her knees so squats are off the table (for now at least).

It'll be important to make it easy at first, something where she won't get discouraged by difficult or complicated exercises and i won't get in trouble for being too intense.
If it were me, I'd chart everything over a long time period -- what i ate, what exercises i did, relative body fat %age, etc, etc, but I'm worried that'll be too pushy. How do i do a good job without going overboard?
How should i deal with [en/dis]couragement? How hard to train? Should I just avoid this completely? etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Training an SO w/o getting in trouble?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:00 pm 
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Eric,

First of all, thank you for giving men in the gym a good name. I've seen the husbands and boyfriends who push their SO's around, yelling and lecturing them, and then get angry when the woman doesn't want to continue with a weight training plan. Gee, I wonder why?

Secondly, good on you for being aware of what your finance will and won't do. You've just made the process loads easier on both of you. The dumbest thing ever is to tell a person what they should want to do, especially when it requires a good chunk of effort for them to do it. There are two ways to get anyone to do something and only one of them works in the long term: you can motivate them or you can inspire them.

You already know about motivation. It's when you do something because you want to avoid an unpleasant outcome. But inspiration is like lighting a fire inside someone that they keep going all on their own. It's a thing of beauty, it's a thousand times more powerful, and it's more satisfying all around.

Here's how I talk to women in the weight room who ask me questions about moves. First, I tell them how smart they are for wanting to strengthen that muscle. I work into the conversation a few ways working that muscle will really pay off for them. Like, in your girlfriend's case, I'd tell her she's a sharp lady for wanting to work arms. Arms are overlooked by most women because they don't understand how important they are or they think their arms will become huge and they'll look like a female Arnold Schwarzenegger. But smooth, well-shaped arms look fantastic in halter tops and spaghetti strap T's, not to mention those swimming suit days. Having strong arms will mean she won't be one of those helpless women who need a guy to get every box down for them or open every jar, either. And if she is inclined towards children at all, holding a baby, a toddler, and then a small child in your arms is torture for women with no muscle tone. Ladies who know their way around a gym can play WITH their kids instead of just sitting on a bench in the park and WATCHING them play. If she's a scientific mind, you can throw out a couple health benefits besides, you know them all by now. My favorite is how weight training actually increases brain function. Kind of blows the "dumb jock" theories out of the water, hunh?

OK, so, now that she's stoked, feels good about her decision, and is looking forward to the future--she's inspired--casually drop how easy this is and how the more you do it the easier it gets. Tell her weight lifting is a self-directed sport, you can start wherever you are comfortable and there's no scorecard for everybody to see. It's all about how you feel, listening to your body, and gradually teaching it to get stronger. This a sport between you and you. She is in charge. This is a liberating idea for a lot of women. Plus, it will take the pressure off you. With her in the driver's seat, it will be more like you are a friendly, trustworthy resource for her to tap rather than a coach she has to be afraid of disappointing.

Other than the usual safety measures (lift slowly and controlled, keep excellent form, when to breathe, etc.) a key point is to make it understood how muscle groups need to be worked as a team. If you aren't clear on the science, yourself, have some fun together looking through books at the library or the bookstore that show really good pictures of all the muscles that assist delt lifts, rows, wrist curls, etc. The machines in the gym have little pictures printed on the side to show which muscles are being used but that doesn't tell the whole story. The really good books will give more detail and in simple English. When it clicks that each muscle is assisted by another, she will accept the necessity of more than one or two exercises for each body part. Her arms are complex machines. Just doing curls and bench press and calling that an arm workout is like only doing gas fill ups and oil changes on your vehicle and calling it "maintained." There's a whole lot more going on under the hood.

So, for her arms to be truly strong and balanced, she needs to work biceps and triceps, forearms front and back, all heads of her delts at the shoulder, all heads of pecs, upper and lower back and her core muscles for stability while performing all these exercises, and some traps and neck work. This sounds like a lot and it is but you don't have to do it all on a Tuesday. There are combination exercises that will cover several of these in one fell swoop. Start with the obvious--biceps, triceps, delts, and back--and when she feels comfortable and confident with those moves, show her one new move every couple weeks. Make it fun and she will look forward to the weight room as much as she does the stationary cycle. Drop a couple compliments on how sexy her arms are looking and she will wrap them around you a lot more often. Woo-HOO, Eric! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Training an SO w/o getting in trouble?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:11 pm 
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Thanks for the response!

I think the best thing for me now, to avoid my going overboard, would be to find a good starter routine for her and see how that works.
Is it at all different from what i'd recommend to a guy friend instead? Certainly a little, at least, given that squats are out.
Any routines and schedules anyone can recommend as a starting point?

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 Post subject: Re: Training an SO w/o getting in trouble?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:48 pm 
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Hmm, never thought of my weight lifting routine as different from a man's. Maybe I lift like a man: woo-HOO! To my mind, muscles are muscles, healthy ones will respond to strength training no matter who you are. Obviously, start with light weights until she gets her form down perfect, but I'd say the same thing to a dude. In fact, I just did last week.

Regarding squats, there is a way to do it while keeping pressure off the knees. I was lucky enough to meet a PT who was a body builder back when I was dealing with Patella Femoral Overload from climbing mountains. He taught me Assisted Squats using the Smith Machine. Basically, it's just like your ordinary hack squat--same muscles--but instead of positioning the bar on top of your shoulders, you stand in front of it and lean back until your upper shoulders are braced against it. You put your feet a foot or more in front of you and at least shoulder width apart (I position mine an inch or two wider than that because my patellas track outwards and this eases their tension). The motion of the exercise is like sitting down in an imaginary chair and standing up again or like leaning backwards against a wall and sliding up and down it from standing to seated and back to standing again. You must make sure to press back into the bar to keep it in position as you move. Flexing your glutes at the bottom as a bonus will give you one tight little heiny. Moving GIF image close to the bottom of this page, titled SMITH MACHINE LEG SQUAT: http://www.flhfc.com/featured_archive.htm I use a padded cuff on the bar like she does to avoid bruising my neck and shoulders.

You can also do this with a partner http://www.acefitness.org/exerciselibra ... ght-squats or exercise bands http://exercise.about.com/od/lowerbodyw ... squat1.htm but you won't be able to load up any weights as you strengthen.


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 Post subject: Re: Training an SO w/o getting in trouble?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:11 am 
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I'm thinking that i should hold off on things that "look intimidating" and stick to things that are more approachable at first. Any merit to this, or just a waste of energy?


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