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Is it harder to cut on a Vegan Diet ?

#1 Postby AlexNLP » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:07 pm

I am asking cause I had this discussion with somebody and it made me think. Even before going Vegan I was staying away from saturated fat. But still something like Tuna fish doesn't have any carbs and very lil fat, while it has lots of protein (I am not taking into account all the crap it has in it I know, that's not the issue).
Most of the Vegan foods that have good amounts of protein have carbs. So I am just wondering out of curiosity. Is it harder to cut while eating Vegan ?
I am not using any protein supplements which makes it even harder to get protein without the carbs.
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Re: Is it harder to cut on a Vegan Diet ?

#2 Postby VeganEssentials » Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:57 pm

It isn't really harder, but for those of us who watch carbs when dieting down, it becomes apparent that there's a fairly strong need to incorporate some protein powders and/or processed meat substitutes to keep protein high and carbs low. That's just the way it goes, those of us who are more carb-sensitive might have to work around things a bit, but it can be done.
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Re: Is it harder to cut on a Vegan Diet ?

#3 Postby boardn10 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:20 pm

I find it easier, I am leaner since going vegan.
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Re: Is it harder to cut on a Vegan Diet ?

#4 Postby Walk_this_way » Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:29 am

Much like previously mentioned, it is pretty challenging if you are cutting carbs. Having done low carb cuts on an Omnivore, Vegetarian, and Vegan diet, I can say I personally had the most difficulty with the vegan cut. That said, it's certainly possible!
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Re: Is it harder to cut on a Vegan Diet ?

#5 Postby Cellar Yeti » Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:50 pm

It's only hard if you believe in all that low carb horse shit. :D
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Re: Is it harder to cut on a Vegan Diet ?

#6 Postby xllx » Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:09 pm

Eat same - run your ass off

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Re: Is it harder to cut on a Vegan Diet ?

#7 Postby Cellar Yeti » Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:35 pm

Extreme bulking is stupid in the first place, in my humble opinion. Your body doesn't need thousands of extra calories a day to build muscle, you're just going to get fat, and have to bust your ass to drop said fat afterward, risking muscle in the process.

I personally eat 250-500 kcal over my average caloric needs to maintain, and do HIIT 1 or 2 times a week which keeps me at a lean 10%.

Just another fine example of bullshit bro science.
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Re: Is it harder to cut on a Vegan Diet ?

#8 Postby xllx » Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:01 pm

Eat slightly over how many calories you use - muscle gain.
Eat way over how many calories you use - muscle AND fat gain.

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Is it harder to cut on a Vegan Diet ?

#9 Postby ForwardConcern » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:52 am

I'm getting great cutting results right now even with 50% + calories from carbs. I just make sure I don't skimp on the protein and that my fat intake isn't any more than 30% of my calories. My little bit of baby fat has been dissappearing fast the past two months I've been on this diet. Probably faster if I was stricter with my fat percentage.
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Re: Is it harder to cut on a Vegan Diet ?

#10 Postby veggieprincess » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:04 pm

yes it's a bit harder but its absolutely doable. But I can't guarantee it if you do zero powders. I'm sure some people can... it's just not the "norm" that you can get a defined cut look without protein supplementation.
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Re: Is it harder to cut on a Vegan Diet ?

#11 Postby AlexNLP » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:11 pm

veggieprincess wrote:yes it's a bit harder but its absolutely doable. But I can't guarantee it if you do zero powders. I'm sure some people can... it's just not the "norm" that you can get a defined cut look without protein supplementation.

That's what I was thinking. We'll see, it would be an interesting challenge.
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Re: Is it harder to cut on a Vegan Diet ?

#12 Postby Walk_this_way » Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:21 am

I agree with Yeti 100% on bulking and calorie consumption. I really feel that a lot of people use bulking as an excuse to just eat whatever they want and avoid cardio haha.
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Re: Is it harder to cut on a Vegan Diet ?

#13 Postby Mellon » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:23 am

Floey (Devil´s Plaything) wrote an article on the low carb diet as a vegan and used it quite well in preparation for last years natural bodybuilding nationals.
If you´re interested here´s the google translated version of it:
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... ng-t24.htm
And that´s what he looked like:
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I´d say it worked ;)


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