This is why I do not do crossfit.

Share your training programs, favorite exercises, training secrets and tips with the rest of the group. Discuss contest preparation, off-season diets, carb depleting and loading, posing, and training programs.

Moderators: Mini Forklift Ⓥ, C.O., Richard, robert, SyrLinus

Message
Author
Busomjack
Rabbit
Posts: 17
Joined: Fri May 25, 2012 3:05 am

This is why I do not do crossfit.

#1 Postby Busomjack » Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:06 pm

This is some of the funniest crap I have ever seen. :lachmal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8up6A4QesU

MuskelKatze
Rabbit
Posts: 89
Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:38 pm

Re: This is why I do not do crossfit.

#2 Postby MuskelKatze » Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:07 am

:D... ok CrossFit was in my programm today (with a question mark!).... I'm now afraid, LOL!

User avatar
stcalico
Manatee
Posts: 380
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:57 am
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Contact:

Re: This is why I do not do crossfit.

#3 Postby stcalico » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:28 am

Wow, I've never seen the clean taught that way before.

But just because you've seen other people suck at something doesn't mean you should never try it. The HIT and Tabata workouts can be pretty intense if you like that sort of thing. (I do!).
True tho that crossfit does have a big potential for injury due to heavy olympic lifts and/or sometimes poor trainers.
If it's important to you, you'll find a way. If it isn't, you'll find an excuse.

User avatar
VeganEssentials
Stegosaurus
Posts: 3065
Age: 42
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 1969 7:00 pm
Location: Waukesha, WI
Contact:

Re: This is why I do not do crossfit.

#4 Postby VeganEssentials » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:14 pm

stcalico wrote:True tho that crossfit does have a big potential for injury due to heavy olympic lifts and/or sometimes poor trainers.


Exactly. Not that there's anything inherently wrong with Crossfit (it has done wonders to get many people in great shape). Moreso that there are far too many crappy trainers jumping on the bandwagon who have ZERO idea of proper olympic lift technique who shouldn't be trying to teach others how to do technical lifts when they don't know proper form themselves. If anyone trains Crossfit, they should make sure that they're working with someone who is USA Weightlifting certified before taking any advice on how to do a proper clean & jerk or snatch!
"A 'hardgainer' is merely someone who hasn't bothered to try enough different training methods to learn what is actually right for their own damned body." - anonymous

User avatar
beforewisdom
Stegosaurus
Posts: 3478
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:44 pm
Contact:

Re: This is why I do not do crossfit.

#5 Postby beforewisdom » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:02 pm

I was really surprised by the very thin and otherwise untrained looking people attempting the lifts with some rather large looking weights.

"The plural of anecdote is not data." (Roger Brinner)

User avatar
stcalico
Manatee
Posts: 380
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:57 am
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Contact:

Re: This is why I do not do crossfit.

#6 Postby stcalico » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:21 pm

The weights are not your 'typical' weights. They are about twice as big as normal ones because they are designed so they can be dropped .. ie. they bounce.
If it's important to you, you'll find a way. If it isn't, you'll find an excuse.

User avatar
VeganEssentials
Stegosaurus
Posts: 3065
Age: 42
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 1969 7:00 pm
Location: Waukesha, WI
Contact:

Re: This is why I do not do crossfit.

#7 Postby VeganEssentials » Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:46 pm

Okay, I didn't watch the video until now. I see what's going on here....

They're trying to do strongman-style "continental cleans", where you clean the bar to the belly, rest it on the "shelf" of the gut, then pop up with a 2nd dip to get it to the shoulders. It's a valid way to clean in strongman contest that use an axle for overhead lifts, but it's absolutely freakin' STUPID that whoever is running that place is training ANYONE other than experienced lifters with a good history and great baseline strength to do this, and so poorly at that. Aside from the multitude of technical errors these people seem to have for the basics of the C&J, they're neither suitably built for doing a proper continental clean (the bigger the gut, the easier it is, for a small framed woman with little bodyfat, it's idiocy to be making them do this, especially without a belt to use as the shelf!), and most of them weren't even strong enough to come close to being able to jerk or press it out anyway. A terrible waste of time, but a great gimmick to make those who don't know better think that you're giving them something that's revolutionary.

This is what gives Crossfit a bad name - people who are simply trying to cash in on its popularity by throwing in arbitrary shit that is going to increase chance for injury based on the trainers not knowing how to teach the lift properly combined with having people who obviously are not experienced enough to be trying such lifts. The new trend has been to "borrow" events from strongman training, drop all that resembles decent form/technique, and make novice lifters beat themselves up doing things that won't help them reach their goals. Stupid, yes, but Crossfit is big money now, so anything goes, though apparently common sense has gone out the window. It's quite obvious when watching the poor girl in blue who is allowed to keep trying the lift over and over, despite nearly dropping the axle on her head as well as coming close to what looked like a potential shoulder dislocation from holding on the bar instead of dropping it after missing a bad jerk attempt. That's what they have bumper plates for, folks - apparently, at some Crossfit gyms, they want to pay extra for the nice plates you can drop that won't hurt the floor, but nobody wants to drop them and would rather crush their skull trying to save a lift they shouldn't be attempting in the first place!

Here's a much better showing of examples of how a proper continental clean should look:

http://youtu.be/zci2JBzHca0
http://youtu.be/Nfw8FYZi9QI
"A 'hardgainer' is merely someone who hasn't bothered to try enough different training methods to learn what is actually right for their own damned body." - anonymous

MattSxvx
Gorilla
Posts: 585
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 10:07 pm
Location: West Florida, USA

Re: This is why I do not do crossfit.

#8 Postby MattSxvx » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:01 pm

This is painful to watch.

User avatar
Iron Clad Ben
Manatee
Posts: 221
Age: 35
Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:00 pm
Location: Los Mangoles, CA
Contact:

Re: This is why I do not do crossfit.

#9 Postby Iron Clad Ben » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:13 pm

MattSxvx wrote:This is painful to watch.
+1

The PhytoAthlete
Manatee
Posts: 216
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:05 pm
Location: USA
Contact:

Re: This is why I do not do crossfit.

#10 Postby The PhytoAthlete » Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:23 am

Good post VeganEssentials.

Just from what I have seen on tv, CrossFit appears to be a good way to get in shape, both physically and cardivascularly.

But from what little I have read online from the various gyms, all the trainers recommend the paleo diet, which is very heavy on meat consumption(even for meat eaters). I wonder, are there any vegan Crossfit trainers out there?

User avatar
stcalico
Manatee
Posts: 380
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:57 am
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Contact:

Re: This is why I do not do crossfit.

#11 Postby stcalico » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:47 pm

Yes... I'm on facebook group for vegan crossfitters and there are a few vegan trainers apparently.
If it's important to you, you'll find a way. If it isn't, you'll find an excuse.

User avatar
macker
Finch
Posts: 1
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:03 pm

Re: This is why I do not do crossfit.

#12 Postby macker » Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:01 pm

That WAS painful to watch! Eek. I do crossfit. My coach would NEVER let crazy ridiculous unsafe stuff like that go on. My experience with crossfit has been nothing but positive! And I think it all goes back to my coach is simply amazing...

User avatar
OliveBlood
Rabbit
Posts: 34
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:39 pm

Re: This is why I do not do crossfit.

#13 Postby OliveBlood » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:45 am

Crossfit belongs in Hell and Glassman belongs right there next to it for all of the crippling injuries he's given people by posing as an actual expert.

User avatar
vegan_rossco
Batman
Posts: 1632
Age: 27
Joined: Thu May 05, 2011 6:15 am
Location: Isle of Wight, England

Re: This is why I do not do crossfit.

#14 Postby vegan_rossco » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:10 pm

holy shit... that's very painful to watch, I genuinely feel bad for the people in the video especially the woman at 44 seconds in with the over/underhand grip they even look embarrassed lifting those barbells, couldn't watch any more out of pity :/
klaatu21 wrote:sensai ross, forgive me for doubting you and myself

Mini Forklift Ⓥ wrote:There's only one thing I'm riding at 6am, and it's not a bike!

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=29098
http://www.facebook.com/ross.d.cosgrove


Return to “Bodybuilding/Strength Training”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: MSNbot Media and 4 guests