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Seeing stars

#1 Postby willpeavy » Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:31 pm

Tonight I was doing leg presses and pushing myself really hard, and during my last set I started seeing stars then blacked out for a second. I didn't suffer any injuries though because the lock was in place. It was a little scary, and I've never had this happen before. Has anyone else experienced this?

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Re: Seeing stars

#2 Postby kollision » Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:32 pm

willpeavy wrote:Tonight I was doing leg presses and pushing myself really hard, and during my last set I started seeing stars then blacked out for a second. I didn't suffer any injuries though because the lock was in place. It was a little scary, and I've never had this happen before. Has anyone else experienced this?


Did you happen to lose oxygen because you were going to heavy and it put too much pressure on your chest area?

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#3 Postby V VII Hero » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:45 pm

i see stars all the time, its from not breathing

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#4 Postby robert » Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:18 am

I also see stars, and only when doing leg press or squats. It happens only when lifting really heavy and usually just on leg days. Although I get it from deadlifts as well.

Basically, I think it is from anything super heavy and lack of breathing.

So you're not the only one. I've been known to vomit after leg workouts too, but not in the last year.

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#5 Postby kadett8 » Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:21 am

hello will,

do you also get a headache after the stars? if yes that could mean that youhave TIH (training induced headache). i have this frm timke to time.
it comes from an lack of oxygen cos too much blood in the muscles.
against TIh the best is to do 1-2 wekks break, than stretch the nec and breahte very frequently (more breathings per rep). but thats not suitable for squats or deads cos of the back.

if there is no headache, its better i guess.

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#6 Postby willpeavy » Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:11 am

Hey Kadett, I didn't have a headache afterwards, so I guess that's a good thing. I was shaken up for a minute, because the blacking out caught me off guard; but after I got up I felt pretty good.

Thanks for the feedback everyone else. It probably was lack of breathing because I was out breath by the time I got to my last set.

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#7 Postby willpeavy » Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:15 am

Oh yeah, also when I do flyes, sometimes I feel one of the veins in my neck throbbing really hard and I have to stop the set I'm doing because I get nervous the vein (or maybe it's an artery) is going to burst. Has anyone else experienced this, or does anyone know anything about this?

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#8 Postby michaelhobson » Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:34 am

willpeavy wrote:Oh yeah, also when I do flyes, sometimes I feel one of the veins in my neck throbbing really hard and I have to stop the set I'm doing because I get nervous the vein (or maybe it's an artery) is going to burst. Has anyone else experienced this, or does anyone know anything about this?


I get the stars and the throbbing neck arteries. When doing flyes, I sometimes have to rest a second in the down position and take a big breathe to continue. I sometimes build up intense nasal pressure when doing deadlifts, feels like my sinuses are going to explode. :?

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#9 Postby willpeavy » Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:05 pm

I wonder if the throbbing neck artery thing has anything to do with breathing, or if there are any exercises I can do to strengthen neck arteries.

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#10 Postby Daywalker » Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:27 am

willpeavy wrote:I wonder if the throbbing neck artery thing has anything to do with breathing, or if there are any exercises I can do to strengthen neck arteries.


It has something to do with it.
When you don't breathe normally, but instead hold your breath and press, you increase the pressure in your thorax. This increases the pressure on the vessels. It's better to learn how to breathe while lifting heavy, or reducing the weights.

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#11 Postby kollision » Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:25 am

Daywalker wrote:
willpeavy wrote:I wonder if the throbbing neck artery thing has anything to do with breathing, or if there are any exercises I can do to strengthen neck arteries.


It has something to do with it.
When you don't breathe normally, but instead hold your breath and press, you increase the pressure in your thorax. This increases the pressure on the vessels. It's better to learn how to breathe while lifting heavy, or reducing the weights.

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Theres actually the technique called the Valsalva Maneuver which I use and it does help with lifting heavier weights. Basically you pull in your stomach towards your spine, and when you are in the eccentric phase of the exercise, hold in all the air you can, and as you go up concentrically, slowly push it out.

However this holding the breath throughout the entire exercise is definitely bad, as you won't be getting oxygen to your brain or muscles for that matter.

As for the pressure, that happens throught the whole body as well, but thanks for specifying Daywalker.

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#12 Postby jonathan » Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:52 am

after really heavy deads i usually have popped capiliaries on my upper chest and front delts. i assume its from the exertion. i think michael can testify that this does infact happen!

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#13 Postby willpeavy » Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:18 pm

Cool, thaks Kollision. I'll try that breathing exercise next time

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#14 Postby kollision » Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:32 pm

willpeavy wrote:Cool, thaks Kollision. I'll try that breathing exercise next time


You are welcome. If you have breathing problems or high blood pressure, DO NOT DO THIS MANEUVER. That wasn't being pointed to you willpeavy, but in general for anyone that tries it.

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#15 Postby willpeavy » Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:01 pm

I just did the breathing exercise on shrugs. I had to do them a lot slower than I was doing them before, but I was able to do higher reps at the same weight I've been stuck on for a while now


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