Vegan Bodybuilding & Fitness

i guess i'll try to ask this here instead of starting a new thread. if you are an ectomorph (skinny guy) and trying to bulk up, put on some lean mass, which would you recommend as a pre-workout drink: a protien shake or a creatine based drink?

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"we must become the change we wish to see in the world"
- Gandhi -

No need to supplement at an early stage.

The basics are:

Eat alot. Every 2-3 hours at the most.

Train well. Three times a week of lifting, based on squat, deadlifts, bench, overhead press, rows, chins. No need to isolate muscles, with lifts like curls or kickbacks.

Rest well. 8 hours of sleep each night, as a minimum. Avoid excessive cardio.

Most people start off skinny - do something based on the above basics and you should gain well

Jonathan

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Squat
Press
Eat
Repeat

One of my favorite oats recipes:

Grind 100g oats,
Grind 40g almonds,
Grind 20g walnuts,
Grind 10g sesame seeds,
Grind some flaxseeds,
Add some chocolate to taste,
Add soymilk +- 300ml,
Let it rest for 5-10mins,
Eat!


Easy way to eat oats when on the road:

Grind oats,
Pour in bottle,
Add soymilk,
Shake, let it rest a little and shake again,
Drink/Eat.

Great with some figs on the side!

Do someone cook oats like grits?

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"Go vegan and no body gets hurt"
HEALTHY PEOPLE ROCK
"milk is for babies"

Yes. It depends on how the oats are prepared (rolled, instant, steel cut, oat bran). There are many different types and brands depending on what country you live in.

JOSH HERE'S MY DIET FOR TODAY.


Meal 1-

2 cups oats, little soymilk with it.

Protein shake (2 bananas, berries, flax seed, protein)

Meal 2-

.5 cup (raw) rice
1 cup corn
1 can chickpeas

Preworkout-

1.5 cups oats

Post workout-

raisins (half glucose, good ole carbs)
dates with 1/4 cup pecans

.5 cup (raw) rice
1 cup corn
1 can garbanzos


Snacks-

Raisins
1 banana
1 apple
some popcorn
probably some other stuff



4400 calories, 160 g protein (more than usual ), 76 g fat (x_X), and 600 plus grams of GOOD OLE carbs.

Not my cleanest day at all, but not much food left right now...

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Lifts:
250 Bench
445 Deadlift
335 Squat

Holy smokes. 1/2 a cup does me in.

I am a big eater.

4000 calories isn't even difficult for me...lol

Usually get some greens in, but that day I had none left.

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Lifts:
250 Bench
445 Deadlift
335 Squat

Whats the time between Preworkout meal, and workout? Also, are you eating the raisins, dates, carbs, etc right after workout, and then waiting a few hours to eat that second part?

Ive been trying this lately. Its still too soon to tell. But, I've been getting some good carbs in after a workout. Then just eating a balanced meal an hour or so later. If I do a smoothie after workout Im usually pretty full, and don't end up eating that much for dinner. Or I force my self to eat, and feel like crap.

If you eat pasta--which I'm sure you do--try switching to Gnocchi (or Italian potato pasta).

I've come to enjoy it more in my veganism, and I feel a lot of energy when I lift after eating it. It's a real killer, and it's some heavy food, too. It really stays with you for a while, and it's got a lot of density to it.

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Stay hungry.

last night:

one box kashi golean (sucks fer the sugars)
half a jar of peanut butter
some granola
bottle of unsweetened almond milk

Holy fuck!
!DEATH BY CEREAL! I had been up for 24 hours straight too boot-toob oot

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got a job for the city shovelin' snow

Cereal is a weakness of mine. It's so easy, and unsatisfying. I gave it up this month. I was going through 3 or 4 boxes of natures path a week. So, I decided to relax on it for a bit. 17 days clean.

yeah cereal is too easy! Id given it up for about 2 months before... 'cept for my huge bowl of S.C.Oats every morning at 4am.

maybe OT:
any bulkers ever wake up every 2-4 hours at night simply starving? This happens to me almost every night and ill eat something small. im afraid my digestion may never get a rest

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got a job for the city shovelin' snow

Hey you know Golean has honey in it? I'm sure you do, silly question. But hey, is honey the only thing you compromise on? It was something I was on the fence about for a while.

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Body by Hemp. Faster, stronger, smarter, and more resilient than ever before!!!

A whole box of Kashi?! Those things should come with a complimentary bottle of Febreze