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once again the ladies put on an impressive fight. Gina Carano and Kaitlin Young put on the best example of MMA of the night IMO. when it went to the ground there was submission attempts (Gina's attempt the gogoplata!) and stand up was a MuayThai clinic. great fight.

Lawler vs. Smith had the makings of an epic fight. i had it even going into the 3rd, one rd a piece. it's just a damn shame about the doctor stoppage after the accidental eye poke. i think they should have given smith the full 5 mins to recover. i think maybe CBS was scared of an eye gouging out on natl primetime television. you could see the disappointment in both of their eyes. at least it was declared a no contest. neither of the fighters wants a win or a loss that way.

thompson vs. slice. first off, DID YOU SEE THAT EAR?! AND already lots of controversy. Brett Rogers who won earlier that night by KO, said he saw Kimbo tap out. Rogers called Kimbo out at the press conference. lots of people are also saying the fight should have been stopped right at the end of the 2nd rd, when Thompson was elbowing the hell out of Kimbo in the crucifix. a minute of unanswered blows to the head, but it was let go. and of course, you got the people who think the fight was stopped early to ensure that Kimbo gets the win, apparently he was behind in the scorecards and would have lost a decision. Kimbo definitely needs more work, he definitely wouldn't last long against a good BJJ fighter.

and the numbers are in, and this event pulled in 4.3 million viewers! so hopefully they will have another one soon.

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Yep, Kimbo ran out of gas, and has no ground game other than brute strength. Still very raw. The win was an absolute gift.

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the minute i saw that ear, i knew he was in for trouble. kimbo went for it! i almost puked when it popped. ewwww...


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ronnie kray wrote:

thompson vs. slice. first off, DID YOU SEE THAT EAR?! AND already lots of controversy. Brett Rogers who won earlier that night by KO, said he saw Kimbo tap out. Rogers called Kimbo out at the press conference. lots of people are also saying the fight should have been stopped right at the end of the 2nd rd, when Thompson was elbowing the hell out of Kimbo in the crucifix. a minute of unanswered blows to the head, but it was let go. and of course, you got the people who think the fight was stopped early to ensure that Kimbo gets the win, apparently he was behind in the scorecards and would have lost a decision. Kimbo definitely needs more work, he definitely wouldn't last long against a good BJJ fighter.



I buy into the conspiracy theory that they wanted to ensure Kimbo's victory if possible. I thought the whole thing was b.s.. It looked to me like Kimbo may have been trying to tap out too. I will say it was impressive that he didn't totally lose consciousness taking all those elbows though!


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Kimbo wasn't tapping he was giving the ref a thumbs up like "I'm ok don't stop it".
Honestly I was pretty disappointed with the whole show. Seems like the ref was stopping fights a little quick.like somebody was being a little cautious since we have new viewers. I dunno, just my theory.


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That whole show made me depressed.

All the fights were stopped way to early (even the girls) and the stars all got the benefit of the doubt so they could pull out and win.

If the same thing that was happening to Kimbo Slice happened to anyone else for that long of period, the fight would have been stopped.

Im giving all respect to the fighters, and NONE to CBS and Elite XC this time. They need to get their act together if they think old school MMA fans are going to go for this.

Throughout the night it felt like I was watching the WWE or something, with all the stage shows. And cheerleaders!? For crying out loud!

Now, my impressions of the fighters. Kimbo needs to get in better shape. He wouldnt last seconds in the ring with any of the top rated UFC heavy weights. Other than that, he still remains someone I LOVE to watch, and I am glad he is moving up in the ranks, instead of trying to go top tier too soon. I definately think he is someone to look out for.

The girls were amazing, and provided the most exciting action of the night. I still think the fight should of gone the third round, the doctors seemed to not want too much blood on live CBS television, a reason why it seemed they stopped most of the fights early.

Scott Smith impressed me, and, just as almost all the fights, we were cheated out of a great fight because the doctors didnt follow the rules. HE HAD 5 MINUTES to recuperate. Give him the full 5.

I am soooo happy Joey Villasenor beat that fucker Baroni. (sorry for the language, I HATE HIM.) Although, once again, I thought the fight was stopped to early.

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i agree that the cheerleaders and the fireworks made it a little too WWE-ish. and their does seem to be some to be some special treatment being given to Kimbo. me and all my friends all thought the fight was going to be stopped in the 2nd. i agree, it probably would have been stopped anywhere else. but they really needed their star to win. so he won, but not in the dominant fashion they were hoping for. it will be interesting to see who they put Kimbo up against next. after that performance, there is now a huge line of fighters that want to fight Kimbo because they know they can beat him. i'm guessing the hype machine will put the drama from the press conference up front, and work the rivalry between Bret Rogers and Kimbo Slice. Rogers has also fought Thompson, and knocked him out in the first rd. something Kimbo couldn't do in 3 rds.

i think the fact that this was on a major network for the first time contributed to the doctor stoppages. but i don't think the stoppage takes anything away from the fighters. that's the fault of the network and the doctors. the fighters were willing and ready to put on a good show, which they did until the doctor stopped it. Smith should definitely have been given his 5 min recovery time, and Robbie Lawler would be the first to agree to that. but there's always the rematch. and for the network, that means more ratings.

they are talking about having another one as soon as august or september. hopefully they will have made a few changes by that time.

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I forget where I read it but I guess Scott Smith broke his foot. Anybody know how long a broken foot takes to heal?


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It depends. It would probably heal faster if the person keeps off of it more. One person I know had an almost healed foot but it wasn't healing properly because she wasn't staying off of it, and she kept training people.

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Agreed that the disco cheerleaders, disco balls and pyro FX cheapened the whole effect and created a lurid carnival atmosphere. Did nothing for the image of MMA.

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BJJVegan wrote:
I forget where I read it but I guess Scott Smith broke his foot. Anybody know how long a broken foot takes to heal?


It depends on what kind of break, obviously, but most bones take about 6 weeks to heal.

However, I broke my foot in January of 2007 and had to wear a hard cast for 12 weeks. After I got the cast off, it took another month before walking didn't hurt. After 2 months, I was starting to do some light jogging and training, and the leg that had been in the cast was starting to regain strength. It took a full 6 months after the cast was off before all the lingering pain and stiffness completely disappeared. And my right leg is still visibly smaller/weaker than my left.


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hilary wright wrote:
Agreed that the disco cheerleaders, disco balls and pyro FX cheapened the whole effect and created a lurid carnival atmosphere. Did nothing for the image of MMA.

Exactly my thoughts as I was watching it. :(


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I never say no to cheerleaders, not dancers, but cheerleaders. The rest of the crap should go. :lol:

scott smith should get 5 minutes then asked questions.

Girls were great and Carano is hot.

Kimbo is a marked man. I thought it was funny that the chose a setup fall guy (thompston) to fight Kimbo and Kimbo lost would have lost to him. I mean Thompson is the guy that Alexander beat the shit out of him and Rogers? beat the shit out of thompson, and now he gets to be in the main event. While Rogers sits on the undercard.

Having back to back nights showed the stark contrast between WEC and Elite XC

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Yep, WEC was like college post graduate compared to Elite in Kindergarden . . . as for cheerleaders vrs dancers, I never say no to dancers . . . even married one (or two).

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more numbers are in. when the show started there was 4.9 million viewers. as the show went on and into the main event, there was a total of 6.51 million viewers! that makes this the most watched MMA event ever! even more than any Ultimate Fight Night on Spike!

i'm a bit torn hearing this news. i am glad that the sport is growing and more people are getting interested in it. but this event got more viewers than Dan Henderson vs Rampage Jackson?!

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