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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:05 pm 
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I rather think that your metabolism uses a lot of energy for the digestion process.
Huh... would have guessed you even younger! But that's probably because I myslef look like 90 at age 23 :lol:

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Ectomorphs burn more energy just to fonction normally : to move, to sleep, to digest food. So there's always less energy from food left for gaining fat or muscles.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:16 am 
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Evil Jukka, I too am a hard gainer.I eat around 3500 calories a day & workout only 2-3 times per week for only an hour at a time.It works really well for me, I am gaining hard now!

By the way, try to vary your sources of protein, I was eating loads of soya for the last 5 months & recently have made myself slightly allergic to it.Because I ate too much of it.Try some pea protein powder, lentils, beans & homous with bread.

Cos believe me, if you go allergic to soya, its a pain in the arse.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:05 pm 
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That's kinda inspiring DaN. :) Thanks.

And don't worry, i get my protein from several products, not just soya. I eat a lot of peanuts, sunflower seeds, protein-rich pasta (not too much though) etc. I just drink a soyprotein shake every now and then to get my protein intake over 100 g a day. :boxer:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:28 pm 
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You remind me A LOT of me when I just started working out about two years ago. I know that it might be hard for you to put on mass but don't use the word hardgainer too much. People told me that I was a hardgainer and I believed them and it did nothing for me except kept me from progressing. Instead of seeing yourself as a hardgainer just think of the postive sides, you're lean and you don't really have to worry about getting fat for example. I think it's really great that you eat a lot of nuts and seeds, for me that was def a key to gaining weight. Fat is good for hormome levels and of course it offers plenty of calories.
Do you have a proper blender at home? I know a perfect recepie for you if you do.

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I might have some problems with gaining weight, but there's no way i'm just going to take it lying down. I'll get my weight up and that's the damn bottom line. :D

Yes, i do have a good blender. :)


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:26 pm 
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Take half a litre of chocolate soy milk (or regular soymilk and add chocolate powder like oboy)
3 decilitres of oats
50 grams of cocoa
50 grams of peanuts (either as butter or regular roasted ones)
0,75-1 decilitre of protein powder

Drink it as breakfast, between to smaller meals or after workouts. It's like 1300 kcal. It made me gain like crazy, and I really mean crazy. I went from 62 to 76 kg in like 6-7 months and was still below 10% bodyfat.
The drink isn't healthy but it should put some mass on you.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:58 am 
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That sounds GOOD! :D I was waiting for some nasty ass liquid that tastes like industrial glue or something but that actually sounds tasty. :)

I'll definitely drink that today, and see how it goes. Thanks a lot man. :)


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:23 am 
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Johan is the man.He pointed me in the direction of a great protein powder website here in the Uk & its becase of him I found the pea protein powder which I absolutely LOVE!

>2 cans of halved peaches, 1 scoop of pea powder (25g protein)

>1 small cup of water

>Blend

YUM!!!!!! :mrgreen:

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Nice recipies to be found here! :D
Too bad I'm not a hardgainer... fatwise :lol:

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Devil's Plaything wrote:
Too bad I'm not a hardgainer... fatwise :lol:


that's what i thought, too..

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:16 pm 
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Dude, That pic displaying the progress in your bicep looked stellar for such a short amount of time and never get discouraged and persistency is the key to anything. Sooner or later, you will see you've gotten the response you were looking for, no matter how much of a hardgainer you are. I know you're training hard, or at least it sounds like it. As far as the intake goes, once you get into the groove and figure out what combination of foods, when and in what ratios responds best to your bulking program, all the chips will fall into place. Estimate how many calories you take in a day, post it (if you haven;t already somewhere else). Someone will suggest a way to adapt it to a greater amount that is feasible and dooable and wont have you shoveling food into you all day nonstop. I love grains in my shakes when I want to bulk. Just blend them up and mix them with fruit and protein powder and chug. 1000's of cals extra a day. Agreed as well with johan's suggests in regards to healthy fats as well. Bulking may not be the most pristine and healthy way to live but tis the way of a bber and gets the job done. I do it, many others here as well.

Keep at it and keep posting away or what have you 8) :wink:

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This one's a riddle, called: "Find the muscle growth in Jukka!". The first one to spot any progress wins a special prize! :roll:

Oh, by the way. I'm -> :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:


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SOLID! Nuff said. ;) 8) i'm impressed bro......

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 Post subject: Re: EvilJukka's Progress Topic
PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:54 am 
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Thanks a lot man. :) I hope i've made progress now.


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