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Re: Starting from.. (better avoid if you're sensitive :P)

#16 Postby I'm Your Man » Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:19 pm

Fresh fruits are way superior than dried fruits, plus dried fruits stick to the teeths causing cavities and they're deficient food considering they're dehydrated so you would become dehydrated too and die if you would eat only this. If you want lots of proteins and a great variety of high quality amino acids you can eat a low fat raw vegan diet consisting of fresh fruits, some avocados or nuts, and dark leafy greens. Non starchy vegetables as well as sprouts offer top quality raw proteins. But personally, I dont usually eat a ton of food, so if I want to gain muscles I will include at least some cooked food like rice, beans, pastas, etc. But when you wanna be cut, fit and extremely healthy from inside out, the diet I mentioned above is perfection.
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#17 Postby RawMan » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:57 am

:sign3: Ahahaha I apologize I wrong word I meant walnuts / almonds / cashews not dried fruit. :sign2: :pillepalle:
Fault of the translator. :violent1:

Personally I follow the diet only fruits in summer. :sunny:
In winter better soup. :kalt:

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#18 Postby tuc » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:14 am

RawMan wrote::sign3: Ahahaha I apologize I wrong word I meant walnuts / almonds / cashews not dried fruit. :sign2: :pillepalle:
Fault of the translator. :violent1:

OK now that makes sense! :popcorn: Yeah, that probably works really well.
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#19 Postby RawMan » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:40 am

Thanks friend. :notworthy:

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#20 Postby Pilgrim » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:56 am

could you advice me please some workout program for first month?

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#21 Postby tuc » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:41 am

Pilgrim wrote:could you advice me please some workout program for first month?

3 x a week full body workout:

- Squats
- Deadlifts
- Bench presses
- Shoulder presses (preferably behind neck)
- Bicep curls
- Sit-ups
- Bent-over rows

3 sets of 8 reps each exercise (more sit-ups obviously). Start with low weights and add weight gradually. You might be devastated after the first few training sessions but it'll get easier very soon. You can do that at least for the first 3 months.

You can choose dumbbells, barbell or machines that imitate those moves, all are fine.
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#22 Postby coroho » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:15 pm

Pilgrim wrote:could you advice me please some workout program for first month?

Stronglifts! It'll get you used to the basic/essential lifts and get you stronger at all of them. Great explanations on how to do them too. The first phase lasts for 3 months but you can stay on it as long as you're seeing gains (I'm on month 4 and still gaining). Check it out here:
http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5- ... g-program/

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Re: Starting from.. (better avoid if you're sensitive :P)

#23 Postby Couture547 » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:15 pm

I'll add my piece of advice since i've gone down many paths and have seen plenty of others go down the paths. I was a raw foodist for 2 years. i've experimented with many versions of the raw food diet and from experience it's a flawed diet, very flawed to be exact. The foods that happen to contain enough protein happen to be fat dominate like nuts/ seeds. these foods do have protein but there fat foods first and foremost.
I think at your size you could make gains as a raw foodist, i think you could make gains on any diet being that size. It will be very hard for you to get enough calories without getting 60 plus percent of your calories from fat being a raw foodist. You could get it from dried fruits, but that will lead to dental issues and also i've found that dried fruits eatten in large quanities are very hard to digest. you could get the calories from fresh fruit, but you better be willing to eat a ton of food and have a big check book.
I'd recommend you eat a good clean whole food vegan diet that contains raw food, but not exclusively. Legumes smoke any fruit nutritionally and are like 10 times cheaper. Complex carbs> simple sugars any day imo for nice stable healthy energy

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#24 Postby phillip » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:38 pm

You will find people go crazy when raw food is mentioned. It is definitely a psychological issue for many people.

The only thing I would worry about is calories. You need a lot for weight training.

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#25 Postby mikkei » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:13 pm

I'm not sure about the raw diet myself, but that's why I'm trying it. I was raw for a year and gained 15 pounds while training. Then I fell of the wagon for a bit both in terms of diet and training. I'm starting up again, so I'll be doing it with you. Good luck and make sure to check out Lean and Green: http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_jack and richard blackman: http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_blackman.

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#26 Postby Zack » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:48 am



Don't check him out. nothing he says is credible, hell the guy ran off to Mexico with people's money to avoid immigration services or something like that. All his websites have been taken down as well.

extremely dishonest person. anyone who calls themselves a "solartarian" shouldn't be given two seconds of consideration.


LeanandGreen however is an excellent example of what can be done.
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#27 Postby RawMan » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:42 am

If one wants to do only muscles with the fruit.
Must eat a lot of nuts. :)

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Re: Starting from.. (better avoid if you're sensitive :P)

#28 Postby mikkei » Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:43 am

Zack wrote:


Don't check him out. nothing he says is credible, hell the guy ran off to Mexico with people's money to avoid immigration services or something like that. All his websites have been taken down as well.

extremely dishonest person. anyone who calls themselves a "solartarian" shouldn't be given two seconds of consideration.


LeanandGreen however is an excellent example of what can be done.


That's funny. Blackman always struck me as a shady kinda guy. For some reason, those accusations don't surprise me. Guy's still in good shape though.

So yeah, check out lean and green. Unfortunately, the pictures on his profile are nowhere near as awesome as when he was in competition shape.

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#29 Postby Zack » Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:06 am

I guess he actually ran off to london and now goes by the name jericho sunfire. :?
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#30 Postby cubby2112 » Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:27 pm

Zack wrote:I guess he actually ran off to london and now goes by the name jericho sunfire. :?


I had no idea his lies went that far. I knew he built his physique on cooked foods, then became (supposedly) a fruitarian and claimed he built muscle on a fruitarian diet, deleting most of his old posts he made while getting big on cooked food.
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