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How Is My Deadlifting Form? - Videos

#1 Postby James298 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:38 pm

Hey guys, I'm just getting over a back injury and my physiotherapist sais that deadlifting will help a lot. This isn't the only exercise I'm doing, as I'm looking to get lean and fit all around, but I want to make sure that my form on the deadlift is perfect before I up the weights so I don't risk injury again. If you guys could take a look at a few of these videos and let me know what I could improve on, or whether I look like I'm risking injury in any way, let me know. I'd really appreciate your feedback! P.S you might have to skip ahead in a few of the videos, I'm a shitty camera guy :P

Also, any tips for a beginner? I've already got the nutrition down, I've been eating nothing but whole foods for the past few years. Also just started bumping the calories way up (3-4000 a day). As far as training goes, I could definitely use a few pointers.

Day 1:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Hxpaxo29I[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCaur8bCjTo[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd3FCw34Xxc[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-khcHFcYdC4[/youtube]

Day 2:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac94oB9phZ4[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q31AElqTNw[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KLg9Fp6UtE[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpcXCuvGo_0[/youtube]

Day 3:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgYZGVwWb7Q[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Goja5_r90[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9OrHTz6RI0[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3S8O82b-jk[/youtube]

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#2 Postby Eiji » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:20 pm

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#3 Postby Eiji » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:27 pm

Links not working. I haven't watched your videos but IMO deadlift form is very specific to each individual. I've seen guys pump out reps of 500+ lbs with ugly form and other guys with super strict form. Just squat down and pick up the damn bar. It's really not that complicated. Squat and bench press form is much more technical and has a much greater impact on the lifts.
Make no excuses to skip a training session. Feel stressed, sad, sick or tired? Go train. Your friends, your heart, mind and body will lie to you. Telling you that you need that recovery day. Go ahead, stay home. I'll be training that day and getting better no matter what.

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#4 Postby thecelticbatman » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:08 am

Links need to be cut & pasted into address bar. Form looks fine in my opinion, but I'm no expert. Looks like you're putting the effort in.
One thing I'd say, especially considering your recent back problems: Why not try a weightlifting belt for more protection? Not necessarily as a permanent solution, but I think it would be sensible during your recovery period. Anyway, at least discuss it with your physio.
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#5 Postby Eiji » Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:39 pm

Weight belts are not for protecting backs, lol, they are used to be able to push abs against to create higher inter thoracic pressure. If you use a belt hoping its presence will somehow protect you from injury your in for trouble.
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#6 Postby thecelticbatman » Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:10 pm

Eiji wrote:Weight belts are not for protecting backs, lol, they are used to be able to push abs against to create higher inter thoracic pressure. If you use a belt hoping its presence will somehow protect you from injury your in for trouble.

They're for both, in my opinion. And for other reasons as well. One of the benefits they CAN have is for protecting backs. That's why I suggested he discuss it with his physio, as where his back injury is will be one of the key bits of info as to whether or not a belt will help in his recovery. I used to use a weider belt in lifting, got my first one about 30 years ago. It was helpful at times. I used one on and off for a few years going to different gyms. I've not used a belt for over 20 years now, and that's even after some serious back problems after a double decker bus 'wrote off' a car I was driving. I still don't use a belt now, but think this chap who posted for advice may benefit from trying one, with advice from his physio. Anyway, just trying to give some hopefully helpful advice. I don't pretend to 'know it all'...
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#7 Postby James298 » Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:41 pm

Well, I talked to my physiotherapist today about a weight belt, and he told me that they would only help for the lower back. My injury is more upper back and shoulders. I'm not noticing any ridiculous pain or anything so far though so I'd say my form is alright. I actually got up to 4 sets of 15 today; I was really proud of myself. Making some definite progress! I think I'll have to up the weight pretty soon and see if I start getting any pain from it. If you guys think my form is alright though I'm not too worried.

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#8 Postby Eiji » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:41 pm

thecelticbatman wrote:I don't pretend to 'know it all'...


I know I come across as a know it all. I apologize. I do actually look up research the things I write about. I know I could present it in a way that is less brash but oh well...it would be less efficient. Weight belts do not prevent injury. Fact. Weight belts can give a false sense of security and compromise the strength of your abdominal wall

Boom. Check it

http://staff.washington.edu/griffin/belts_chek.txt

http://www.muscleforlife.com/do-weightlifting-belts-work/

http://www.builtlean.com/2012/10/01/weight-lifting-belt/

I never wear a belt and would never suggest a weight belt to anyone. They are dangerous IMHO 8)

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#9 Postby thecelticbatman » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:41 am

Respect. Yeah, I've personally not used a belt for years. But if I look back I do think if anything using one in the early days did help me develop good form. But I may be wrong, and I'm sure that wouldn't necessarily be the case for everyone anyway... & those articles you posted links to have strong arguments against their use at all. In my current gym I think I've only seen 2 or 3 guys using belts. In Sean Connery style I guess I'll never say never... But I certainly think my core strength these days is a lot better then it was, so I don't feel I need one, but for lower back injuries....? Maybe there's still a place for belts in some circumstances? I'm guessing you'd say that place would be the bin...? :-) I agree that finding out robust info about things is crucial: Informed decision making being the mac daddy and such forth. Wasn't it Stewart Lee who recalled a taxi driver's frustration.... "well you can prove anything with 'facts'..."...

As for the original post, if anything I'd say try & get more of a 'hinge' mechanism going on... As explained nicely in this video on youtube: It was the first hit for deadlift form:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UyRiw2b8yI4

In your vids it looks to me like your lower back's 'pulling' a bit.
Just a thought, stick at it!
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#10 Postby James298 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:05 pm

I'll try to fix it and post some more vids in a day or two. I actually noticed the same thing when I was checking the vids last night actually... It's gonna be awkward as fuck to fix.

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#11 Postby Eiji » Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:50 pm

I watched finally. The path of the bar needs to be straight up and down. Right now it looks like you're moving the bar out of the way of your knees
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#12 Postby James298 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:35 am

Eiji wrote:I watched finally. The path of the bar needs to be straight up and down. Right now it looks like you're moving the bar out of the way of your knees


I think it has to do with my lower back rounding. I think I have to hinge more at the hips and less at the knees; my knees have actually been getting in the way of the bar a little bit....

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#13 Postby Eiji » Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:33 pm

Watch this. I stand corrected. This guy is good

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jEy_czb3RKA
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#14 Postby thecelticbatman » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:07 am

Eiji wrote:Watch this. I stand corrected. This guy is good

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jEy_czb3RKA

Good vid. & funny to boot. Hams & glutes. I also checked out his channel & more of his vids. A helpful one on chest press.
This thread's got me inspired to get back into more compound exercises, the last few years I've just got more and more into isolated exercises.... so next time I'm at the gym I'll be the one doing the deadlifts.
Keep liftin! :-)
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#15 Postby Eiji » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:19 pm

You have to watch his video on supplements.
Make no excuses to skip a training session. Feel stressed, sad, sick or tired? Go train. Your friends, your heart, mind and body will lie to you. Telling you that you need that recovery day. Go ahead, stay home. I'll be training that day and getting better no matter what.


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