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Has anyone tried Vega?

#1 Postby sdsurfer » Wed May 25, 2005 1:08 am

Has anyone tried Vega? If so what kind of results did you notice?

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#2 Postby robert » Wed May 25, 2005 2:06 am

I have some Vega protein powder at home right now. I liked it. I have the berry flavor hemp protein. I think it is 25g of protein per serving.

It has somewhat of a gritty consistency but it can easily be blended with fruits and made into a smoothie. I just took it with cold water and it was just fine.

I enjoy it and think it is a good product. I took in shakes for 43 consecutive days before giving them a little break. I don't take in protein shakes everyday. I like food too much and sometimes I'm also lazy and just don't make the drinks.

But it is good stuff, I'd say give it a try.

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#3 Postby robert » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:17 pm

I'm starting to use more Vega the more I learn about it. Now, I think it is one of the best things you can put into your body. I've spent time with the creator of it, Brendan Brazier (Author of Thrive) and learned a lot about it.

I suggest you check it out. You should be able to find it on www.myvega.com or www.brendanbrazier.com. I know it sells in over 1,000 stores across Canada (where Brendan lives).

It is awesome stuff.


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#4 Postby Daywalker » Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:27 pm

Hi Rob.

Of course you advocate it, you said you get your share from the profit ;-)

No seriously, is it possible to purchase it in the internet and get it send here to Germany? I'd really like to try that! How much is in one can and how much does it cost?
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#5 Postby Taylor » Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:02 am

Daywalker wrote:I'd really like to try that! How much is in one can and how much does it cost?

The other day I went to the local organic health food store here and saw that they were charging $80.00 Canadian (so $60.00ish American) for a not-so-large container of the stuff.

Definitely too rich for my blood now but maybe when I land decent job I'll get into trying the stuff out. After reading the ingredient list it looks like it's a super-potent form of protein!

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#6 Postby compassionategirl » Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:09 am

Taylor wrote: The other day I went to the local organic health food store here and saw that they were charging $80.00 Canadian (so $60.00ish American) for a not-so-large container of the stuff.

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#7 Postby Daywalker » Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:44 pm

compassionategirl wrote: :shock: :(

My thoughts exactly... :shock:
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#8 Postby jonathan » Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:51 pm

i dont like it when high level athletes exploit their position to make money. the 'i use 'x product' and it makes me super strong/fit/lean/cut' (delete as appropriate) gets on my nerves. anyone else feel the same?

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#9 Postby robert » Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:29 pm

Hey guys,

I may have explained before, or maybe not.....Vega is a formula that Brendan Brazier used for years on his own on quest to become a better athlete.

He is one of the few people I know who became Vegan for health reasons, nothing to do with animal rights. He was a good athlete, experimenting with different diets and food combinations. He discovered veganism and became a professional athlete. He studied nutrition (and wrote his own best-selling book) and basically invented his own supplement that he used for maybe 4 or 5 years before deciding to make it a product that others could buy and use. So he put all the things together and named it Vega.

dont like it when high level athletes exploit their position to make money. the 'i use 'x product' and it makes me super strong/fit/lean/cut' (delete as appropriate) gets on my nerves. anyone else feel the same?


Jonathan, this is funny you mention this because it could not be further than the truth :D Brendan stayed with me in my apartment for a while this summer so we got to know one another.

I noticed he was eating Vega all throughout the day, each day, preparing for an up coming race and I causually said, "you know it's funny you are using the product that you promote, because so many athletes don't, they just market it." He just kinda looked at me and almost laughed and said, "of course I'm going to use it, I invented it for myself."

And my buddy Daywalker.........

Of course you advocate it, you said you get your share from the profit


I don't get any profit share or anything like that. Brendan sends me some as I am one of their new sponsored athletes. I don't know if I'm officially sponsored, but I used vega preparing for my contest in April, (a gift for my birthday Brendan sent) and wrote some testimonials that SeQuel (the company that sells Vega) is going to use in an upcoming Brochure, along with photos. So I personally get free Vega, but that is a reward to my hard work and success as a vegan bodybuilder and for no other reason.

I also get lots of sample packs that I send out to anyone who orders a Vegan Bodybuilding & Fitness t-shirt. (Sorry for those who ordered in the past and didn't get them...Brendan came to visit in June and sent me all the samples just recently in late July).

I know I saw some :shock: faces at the cost. I don't know the exact cost, but I do know it is more expensive than most, and probably superior than most.

I do have brochures and samples now that I will be sending out with all future t-shirt orders.

I mix it up with strawberries, bananas and either juice or water in a blender and it's probably the healthiest smoothie ever made :)

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#10 Postby jonathan » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:35 am

ok, so he uses it himself, but then he can probably afford to as it cost $65 dollars a tub. that is for 15servings. that is $4.33 a serving. how can anyone afford that? it works out at $1580 a year if you took a serving a day. i appreciate that brendon brazier has to make a living and that Vega is good stuff, but it is beyond the means of almost anyone.

is there no way than brendon can lower the price so that normal people can afford it? i mean soy protein is about $18 for 2lb here and there is still a decent profit margin on that....

other people who wish to emulate brendons success do not have the same chance if they are on a normal income - the best gift he could give to the movement is to sell Vega cheaply so that there are more high level athletes.

this may all be a little ideological though....

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#11 Postby Brendan Brazier » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:55 am

Hello,

Just thought I’d clear a few things up myself. I did formulate Vega; it’s not something I just endorse. I’ll admit that $80 Canadian is much too high. There should never be a store in Canada that sells it for more than $75, that’s suggested retail. Most sell it for $67, that’s standard. Here’s one selling it for $69.99 CDN:

http://www.aviva.ca/shop/products.asp?i ... &catid=268

A serving is 500ml, a pint. So it’s really quite large, most people will be full on ½ a serving.

Its price is also a reflection of attention to detail and quality. It’s certainly not just a protein. It eliminates the need for several products. Many people have indicated that they no longer want to take several pills a day. It eliminates that need and provides food-sources nutrients in a convenient form. It also has 2.5 grams of maca which is an excellent vegetable for the adrenal glands to provide energy by nourishing the adrenals as opposed to stimulating them which refined sugar and caffeine does. I used to buy all of these foods separately and blend them together – now that was expensive and time consuming. However it was worth it since my performance improved dramatically.

Also, where else can you get a ready-to-eat nutritionally complete meal with 25 grams of protein from five sources (hemp, pea, rice, flax, chlorella - synergistically combined to create a “flat line” amino acid profile), 7 grams of essential fatty acids, 9 grams of fibre, enzymes, probiotics and a berry complex from antioxidants for lest than $5? A starchy muffin and a coffee cost that. I’m certainly not suggesting that everyone must consume Vega to be healthy or perform well, but as with all premium foods – especially in a convenient form – the price will be higher than some. In Canada many health food store workers are reporting that one of its biggest selling features is that it is considerably cheaper than buying all of what it replaces. One can certainly take the time to make healthy meals, but not every one has that option – Vega is one solution.

As far as supporting athletes such as Robert by providing them with product; it’s something I’m happy to do. As a professional athlete I appreciate how long it takes to get to a high level. It’s a way for me to give back to sport in general. When I see someone like Robert who puts so much time and effort into his training and promoting a vegan lifestyle, I like to be a part of it and support it however I can. Plus of course it helps spread the word about Vega.

I know I’m going on here but…

You may be interested to know that it’s been reported that between 70%-80% of regular Vega users have replaced their whey-based meal replacements or protein drinks. I’m sure I don’t need to explain the environmental implications of that. Not to mention the “real cost”, referring to the amount of energy needed to produce the ingredients. Hemp (the number one ingredient in Vega) is an extremely efficient crop and is the 2nd most efficient way to produce protein known. It is followed only by chlorella, an algae from Japan that quadrupeds every 24 hours and is 70% protein. One bottle of Vega contains 42.5 grams of it. It’s being studied by NASA for astronaut nourishment during extended space flight since it does not require soil to grow, just water and sun. No soil also means it does not stretch out already “tired” arable land further. Meaning that it is also not subject to low nutrient levels produced by over farming – big bonus. Anyway, its monetary cost is in sharp contrast to its “real cost.” I write about this in detail in my book Thrive: A guide to optimal health and performance though plant-based whole foods. (the Vega formula was actually based on my book http://www.brendanbrazier.com/book/index.html ).

By supporting the kind of agriculture that I have chosen to do by formulating Vega, it will bring the future cost of these “undervalued” crops down, so will actually make them more available. Yes, this is still a ways in the future but within 25 years these high-end ingredients will be cheaper than the “artificially” cheeped commodity prices charged for soy and whey. Big companies would not take a chance because the margins are so low, but I did. Someone had to do it.

That’s it for now…

Brendan

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#12 Postby jonathan » Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:12 am

thankyou for posting brendon, its nice to hear where you coming from.

i appreciate that for some people it has helped lower the cost of their supplement bill, and that also it has helped others cut out whey.

but the problem is that many people are on a seriously tight budget (it already costs a lot of gym membership/sports equipment/all the extra food you need) and it is beyond the means of many people. myself included. i can only afford 1 (maybe 2) scoops of cheap soy protein a day (im only taking more at the moment because a friend gave me 2kg of pea protein and 1kg of soy protein for free) and my daily food, which usually totals at least 5000cal, comes to no more than 7dollars.
if i took vega also (i would get through a full portion too, being a big bastard!) it would practically double my food bill.

whilst i acknowledge that you need to make a living, and that some of the ingredients are expensive, can you not sell it more cheaply, so that everyone has a chance to use it? alternatively, using the expertise you have from creating vega, maybe you could formulate a more basic mix, that maybe didnt contain all the different ingredients, but was along the lines of a few different types of protein, some fatty acids and whatever else.
something like that might prove useful to serious athletes too - for instance, if they are in a period of high volume training they could supplement vega once a day(to get all the vitamins etc) but the more basic stuff several times a day (for fuel).

just a thought.

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#13 Postby compassionategirl » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:09 pm

If it was more affordable I would definitely use it regularly. I cannot afford $65.00 bucks a pop either. :(

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Brendan Brazier's post about vega

#14 Postby andrew » Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:33 pm

Hi,

I'm new to posting on this forum, but have been reading for awhile.

I just had to sign-up to respond to Brendan Brazier's post about vega. Awesome! I don't know much about nutrition, but I do know about the economics of agriculture and am interested in becoming 100% vegan for the very reasons that Brendan talks about in his post. He is absolutely right about supporting these 'new' efficient crops such as hemp and chlorella - that's the only way they will reach commodity status as Brendan mentions. For him to merely put his name on the-same-old soy protein would accomplish nothing. Hat's of to him for thinking long-term! No doubt larger companies will see the success of vega and try to mimic it - that's great because that's the shift we as environmentalists are dreaming about!

PS. I've just ordered your book Brendan, can't wait to read it!

Cheers,

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#15 Postby Daywalker » Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:50 pm

Hey.

Thanks for the information, esp. Brendan! :)
I know Vega's not just a protein, and i very much appreciate your ideals, but my purse is tight at the moment...


robert wrote:And my buddy Daywalker.........

I don't get any profit share or anything like that.

Hm... sorry, Robert. I apologize because sometimes i make it not clear enough when i'm being ironic (especially in the internet). I thought you'd notice the ;-)-smiley and the beginning of the next sentence being "No, seriuosly..." ...
Sorry, please remember that English is a foreign language to me. :oops:


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