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#16 Postby Jay » Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:13 pm

If you're vegan and eating healthy, the health benefits of alcohol aren't worth the bother.

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#17 Postby sinisterkungfu » Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:17 pm

Jay wrote:I think the one potential good of drugs is that you can look at things from a new way. But they're really not worth it for that. You can look at things from a new way without drugs. I notice good musicians always seem to take drugs. I think that's more because they end up desperately suicidal and turn to music then to try to feel better. And they are trying to assimilate also. It seems that a lot of artist types are really concerned with trying to fit in/be cool or whatever. Which seems really strange to me. But I remember I always got dissed because I was getting degrees in engineering and didn't dress right for them. I was stereotyped and dismissed.

I went to art school for a while, and I found the opposite to be true. Most of them would try harder to be shocking and/or unique than to fit in and be 'cool'. For most artists/musicians, the drugs had nothing to do with being depressed or suicidal, more as a quick way to try and tap into their subconscious and expand their creativity.

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#18 Postby Richard » Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:18 pm

Thanks for the links :) I love grape juice I drink it all the time. Wine to me tasted like grape juice which has been left in a barrel for a few years and has gone off, but it was a long time ago that I had it.

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#19 Postby Kathryn » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:27 pm

Hero wrote: and for anyone who wants the health benefits of "red wine", consume some chocolate.

Or grapes, or blueberries, or green tea, or white tea, or roibos (red) tea, or goji berries...!

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#20 Postby michaelhobson » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:10 pm

Good work Gorilla if it is working for you. The abs look great!

For me, i'm enjoying a nice brown ale about now. :D I was alcohol-free for the first 30 years of my life, so I hear where you are coming from. Don't assume though that alcohol is a problem for everyone. I drink moderately and work out very intensely. One doesn't negate the other.

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#21 Postby Hero » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:14 pm

Richard wrote:
Hero wrote:and for anyone who wants the health benefits of "red wine", consume some chocolate.

Is that for real? My mum wibbles on about wine a lot. I tell her to eat grapes or grape juice so far :p

yes. its on the side of chocolate SILK soy milk container.

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