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 Post subject: smokers
PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:24 pm 
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unfortunately yes i do smoke but i am trying to stop. i just wanted to know what effects smoking has when trying to lose weight and bulk up?


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 Post subject: Re: smokers
PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:03 pm 
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Well I know weight gain is one thing...which is why I've stalled on quitting for so long...I'm already trying to lose weight I don't want to gain more but I know smoking hinders my workouts


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 Post subject: Re: smokers
PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:28 pm 
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People who quit smoking often gain weight. Nicotine is an appetite suppressant ( that is why all of those college women and models STILL smoke ). Going through withdrawal also gives people a lot of nervous energy which often leads to snacking on top of their appetite coming back with a vengence.

Quitting smoking is the most important thing you can do for your health.

Starting an exercise plan is a good idea for controlling the weight gain and the nervous energy.

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 Post subject: Re: smokers
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:20 pm 
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There is a small amount of nicotine in velvet bean, mucuna pruriens. If you eat one a day, it may help you lose tolerance. Nicotine patches probably have more nicotine than you need. I quit smoking 8 years ago after chainsmoking for 4 years. I wouldn't recommend you quit without some form of assistance like a patch or a velvet bean. Mainly because it will mess with your head more than you need. Oral fixation is probably the most difficult thing about it. Look forward to smelling in 2 weeks. You will probably love how plants in gardens smell if you happen to live near any flowers.

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 Post subject: Re: smokers
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:13 pm 
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Where do you get velvet beans?? I've used the patch, gum, lozenges, Zyban, Chantix (which screws up my system) haven't had any luck.
Funny thing for me is that smoking doesn't keep my appetite in check...if it did I wouldn't need to lose about ten pounds!


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 Post subject: Re: smokers
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:37 pm 
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There're mucuna pruriens extracts all over the web you can google, plus pure beans can be bought at

http://www.maya-ethnobotanicals.com/pro ... ubid_1241/

although I don't know what much difference there would be.

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 Post subject: Re: smokers
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Thanks...this is a dumb question but what do you do with it??


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 Post subject: Re: smokers
PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:29 pm 
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I have a "male plus" pill from tattvasherbs.com that contains mucuna pruriens as part of its extracted compounds; that is how I found out about its existence. It contains such a tiny amount of nicotine that it probably is only noticable in that it prevents the mind from going insane in the case that you are addicted to tobacco during its withdrawals. In other words, if you find a mucuna pruriens extract on the web, take 1 serving and see if it helps with the nic-fits. If you go with the seeds on maya-ethnobotanicals it probably would make sense to just eat one.

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 Post subject: Re: smokers
PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:31 pm 
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Right now i'm just so freaking worried about gaining more weight but I guess now would be the time to quit since i'm dealing with holiday weight gain anyway


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 Post subject: Re: smokers
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You could always do the nicotine gums or the nicotine patches to gradually step down. You wouldn't get as anxious from the physical withdrawal and would eat less. You would only the nervous energy from the psychological habit and you may not have that aspect to it.

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 Post subject: Re: smokers
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beforewisdom wrote:
You could always do the nicotine gums or the nicotine patches to gradually step down. You wouldn't get as anxious from the physical withdrawal and would eat less. You would only the nervous energy from the psychological habit and you may not have that aspect to it.


I have both of those...used to have the lozenges too...have been on chatix twice and it messes up my digestive system so bad...never totally recovered from it the last time! :( I think my biggest fear isn't the withdrawal it's the weight gain.


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 Post subject: Re: smokers
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in my personal experience the only way to quit is to get totally sick and tired of smoking. i guess i was lucky, it only took me 4 years. :|

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 Post subject: Re: smokers
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Try working with a hypnotherapist.

My aunt smoked for over 20 years and quit after a few hypnotherapy sessions.

If you understand Neuro Associative Conditioning then you understand how your mind associates smoking with certain emotions, chemical releases, and physical sensations. If you were clever enough, you could alter this neurological association to your favor. This is essentially what a hypnotherapist does.

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 Post subject: Re: smokers
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I smoked for about 17 years and quit when I met my husband. I actually lost weight. I know so many fat smokers and fat non-smokers that I think the idea of gaining weight when you quit is a myth.

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 Post subject: Re: smokers
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xveganjoshx wrote:
Try working with a hypnotherapist.

My aunt smoked for over 20 years and quit after a few hypnotherapy sessions.

If you understand Neuro Associative Conditioning then you understand how your mind associates smoking with certain emotions, chemical releases, and physical sensations. If you were clever enough, you could alter this neurological association to your favor. This is essentially what a hypnotherapist does.


great information!

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