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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:03 am 
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The hemp probably has no THC in it especially if it's sold in the states. They most likely get the seeds from industrial hemp farms, and industrial hemp has no THC, or it's so little it could not be detected by a drug screen. I too am applying for new jobs, I hadnt given hemp protein powder a thought until now, not worried one bit though. Just dont eat poppyseeds before you get the test, and there are a few other legal kind of things that can show up as drugs. May want to research this a little....


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Just dont eat poppyseeds before you get the test, and there are a few other legal kind of things that can show up as drugs.

How about a 1/2 dozen, BIG hemp/poppyseed muffins! :wink:


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9nines wrote:
I am thinking of buying some hemp protein powder. Is there any concern, in drug testing?

I am looking for a new job and many employers require drug testing. Anyone know if hemp seed digestion can cause positive result in marijuana tests?


that would be no. hemp protein is good stuff, I think the stuff I got is called Holy Hemp or something. Anyways, I gotta mix it with o.j. to kill the taste also I mix in some SPI cuz it can cause a little upset esp. on an empty stomach.

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The only kind I've found in Germany is this:


http://www.newstartcenter.biz/online-sh ... davert.htm

I powder the seeds in my coffee grinder just the same as my Golden Linseed and mix in with my banana-soya milk smoothie. Well nice!

I don't know if grinding the whole seeds is as good as getting shelled hemp seeds. Any thoughts?...

I heard that grinding the golden linseed makes the nutrients available and that if you get linseed already powdered it's not so good. Something to do with oxidisation.

I figure this all applies to hemp seeds too. And other seeds for that matter: pumpkin, sunflower... Although I like to add pumpkin, sesame and pine nut kernels whole to salads and even pasta sauces for the crunch factor.

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"[/quote]I don't know if grinding the whole seeds is as good as getting shelled hemp seeds. Any thoughts?...

I heard that grinding the golden linseed makes the nutrients available and that if you get linseed already powdered it's not so good. Something to do with oxidisation.

I figure this all applies to hemp seeds too. And other seeds for that matter: pumpkin, sunflower... Although I like to add pumpkin, sesame and pine nut kernels whole to salads and even pasta sauces for the crunch factor.[/quote]"

I was wondering about this too, during the processing is there some oxidation going on...if so that's not good. there are polyunsaturated oils even in the hemp protein concentrates. The whole seed is better, its just a matter of getting more aminos in you which makes the refined product more convenient, you know more protein/less cals kinda thing. You're right about the flax, it's got to be ground fresh. jus get yourself a coffee grinder and you're set.

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With flax, it's best to grind it fresh (unless you can get ground flax in a nitrogen-sealed bag, and keep it in the freezer), because otherwise, you might end up with "flax meal" (which is the flax with the oil removed) or with problems with rancidity (flax oil goes rancid very quickly). Unless you really chew the seeds well, they often will pass through in the same condition they went in, so the nutrients won't be available.

Hemp is different, both because it doesn't go rancid as quicklly, and because it is easier for the body to digest (unless you eat it unhulled, I suppose, but in the US it has to be rendered incapable of reproducing to be imported, which means it has to be hulled, or ground, or irradiated.


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I see. Yes as you can see from the photo from the link I posted, these hemp seeds are fully capable of being grown.

On the packet it says "not to be grown"! Although I heard that it's cannabis and not hemp that you grow for marijuana. Male. Female. Something like that. Not sufficiently interested. Can't understand why anyone would ingest/inhale/imbibe anything that makes you LESS productive. That's just madness to me.

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Gorilla wrote:
I see. Yes as you can see from the photo from the link I posted, these hemp seeds are fully capable of being grown.

On the packet it says "not to be grown"! Although I heard that it's cannabis and not hemp that you grow for marijuana. Male. Female. Something like that. Not sufficiently interested. Can't understand why anyone would ingest/inhale/imbibe anything that makes you LESS productive. That's just madness to me.

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why would anyone want to grow industrial hemp and chance getting busted for nothing...I bet they'd have a real tough time trying to explain that one to the judge. As for me, my lungs like only fresh air these days.

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I dont think you would get in trouble for growing industrial hemp, but there would be some legal hassle.


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CollegeB wrote:
I dont think you would get in trouble for growing industrial hemp, but there would be some legal hassle.


ok then, you can try it and we'll see... :D jk! don't do it man! just say no! really tho, I'm sure you'd need a government permit to do it. you can bet your collegebutt they would hassle you if you weren't certified. :repa:

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Due to some very heavy lobbying by a paper manufacturer and a textile (?) manufacturer, it was made illegal to grow hemp in the US sometime in the 50's or 60's? But before that, hemp was grown here. In fact, Benjamin Franklin and Georges Washinston REQUIRED farmers to grow it because of its usefullness.

The "hemp farms will be a smoke screen for illegal cannabis growth" spiel is bogus! The real reason the government doesn't want it grown is to protect big US business, IMO.


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Kathryn wrote:
Due to some very heavy lobbying by a paper manufacturer and a textile (?) manufacturer, it was made illegal to grow hemp in the US sometime in the 50's or 60's? But before that, hemp was grown here. In fact, Benjamin Franklin and Georges Washinston REQUIRED farmers to grow it because of its usefullness.

The "hemp farms will be a smoke screen for illegal cannabis growth" spiel is bogus! The real reason the government doesn't want it grown is to protect big US business, IMO.


it was actually like the 30's thanks to everyone's favorite newspaper mogul William Randolph Hearst.


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If you're in Europe, here's some variations of hemp:
Hemp at detoxyourworld
Hemp protein is very expensive though. It should be cheaper than both soy and pea IMO, if they would just legalise it....

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Kathryn wrote:
Due to some very heavy lobbying by a paper manufacturer and a textile (?) manufacturer, it was made illegal to grow hemp in the US sometime in the 50's or 60's? But before that, hemp was grown here. In fact, Benjamin Franklin and Georges Washinston REQUIRED farmers to grow it because of its usefullness.

The "hemp farms will be a smoke screen for illegal cannabis growth" spiel is bogus! The real reason the government doesn't want it grown is to protect big US business, IMO.


here's a link...tho the opinions of this organization are not necessarily my opinions. apparently some hemp is grown in hawaii, montana, north dakota and minnesota. they may just be test plots for ongoing studies tho. http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=3395

"The Montana Legislature approved Senate Bill 261 recognizing industrial hemp having no more than 0.3 percent THC as an "agricultural crop." This legislation also establishes licensing procedures to allow local farmers to grow hemp commercially. An amendment to the bill requests the federal government to issue a "waiver that will allow this act to be effective without federal preemption."

...of course this tells us nothing about whether the federal government approved it and it is already an established law.

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The "hemp farms will be a smoke screen for illegal cannabis growth" spiel is bogus! The real reason the government doesn't want it grown is to protect big US business, IMO.


I think you are right on the mark. Hemp (Cannabis sativa) is truly a miraculous plant which literally has thousands of uses. It's true that in the U.S. it was once illegal to not grow hemp and it was the primary agricultural product in the original Jamestown colony. Henry Ford recognized its potential as a fuel source, for auto manufacture, in paints, oils, etc. The U.S. Constitution, the Magna Carta and the Declaration of Independance were all written on paper made from hemp.

In the 1930's Popular Science predicted a huge boom in hemp and its applications to technology and food science, proclaiming 3000 uses for it. In the 1940s the U.S. Defense Dept. deemed hemp so important to the WWII cause that it made a film titled "Hemp for Victory!" Hemp is very easy to grow, can be easily grown with minimal if any herbicide/pesticide use and is quite possibly the most nutritious food on the planet with a perfect 1:4 ratio of omega 3 to 6 fatty acid ratio. It's wholesale introduction into western agriculture would create a HUGE paradigm shift in agribusiness that would ripple down and change the face of several industries.


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