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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 2:07 pm 
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Hey i was searcing google and came across this site. Everyone should check it out if you havnt yet. It might make you want to switch to a raw diet if you arent already on one.

http://www.thegardendiet.com/

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:16 pm 
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Thanks for the link :) I am really interested in the raw diet and lifestyle - I think to be successful on raw diet you should mostly fruit, with an occasional salad and some nuts (fats sparingly). A mistake people make going to a raw vegan diet is to get way too many of their calories from raw fats, but too much fat is never good!


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:55 am 
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How many 100% raw food members do we have on here? My friend Tonya Kay (www.tonyakay.com) is a raw foodist. My buddy Brendan Brazier (www.brendanbrazier.com) is about 80% raw. I've been up near 60-70% raw for periods of time, but I'm not even close these days. I'd like to go back to being more raw so I think I'll put some energy into it.

Any raw foodists out there on this forum?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:47 am 
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I'm about 60% - 70% now. The more raw food I eat, the better I feel, and have been looking to increase my raw consumption. Lack of easily being able to prepare meals due to limited knowledge of good raw recipes is holding me back. But as I find ones I like it gets easier. At this time however, I don't ever see myself being 100% raw.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:04 am 
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Robert, I forgot to mention I received an e-mail from Storm & Jingee (mass e-mail) and they are starting their e-newsletter up again. You can sign up directly from their site.

I like Storm and Jingee's approach as they seem to lean towards foods closer to their whole form, unlike some that like to dehydrate a lot of food. I also don't want to juice, but I'm not sure if they do or not.

I also have been known to hang around some of the Raw Boards. :wink:

......not that any of them compare to this incredible board, of course! :D


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Thanks Denise,

I'll look into it. I also feel like raw is one of the best, or best ways to go. It is new to be, but then again, so was veganism 10 years ago, so maybe sometime raw will just be everyday life for me.

I've checked out some raw boards too, and I'm even on a raw personals site. You know me, the single peaceable vegan bodybuilder :wink:

A great book is THRIVE by Brendan Brazier, check it out on www.brendanbrazier.com

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:29 am 
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I tried raw a while back and I'm going to try it again - either starting today or tomorrow. Does 'ligthly steamed' count as still raw - I don't know it's not like I'm totally cooking the food just warming it up a little - like the old stir fry y'know!

I tried juicing but I prefer eating the entire fruit

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:32 am 
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I believe BigBWII was doing Raw Veganism for awhile, not sure if he went back to it. I think he probably has the most knowledge on the subject on this forum, since he was the one that I remember that brought up the whole issue on Raw Diets.

I would really like to try it. Is it cheaper than buying other vegan foods? Does Tofu count or any foods that have a container?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:32 am 
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I believe BigBWII was doing Raw Veganism for awhile, not sure if he went back to it. I think he probably has the most knowledge on the subject on this forum, since he was the one that I remember that brought up the whole issue on Raw Diets.

I would really like to try it. Is it cheaper than buying other vegan foods? Does Tofu count or any foods that have a container?

BigBWII is a fruitarian.
Tofu isn't raw because it has been processed.
It's up to debate the exact temp, but I have seen arguments for anything heated above 105-115 would not be raw food.

As far as cheaper, it is totally dependent on what you buy now. Raw foodies recommend organic food which is more pricy as well as some really high dollar ingredients if you choose to make some of the recipes. Since buying organic is so expensive and some food are not available in my area. I use this rule of thumb: If it's a product I would be eating the peel are a soft food then I buy organic when available. If it will be peeled I by standard items. My current grovery bill on (high) raw is anywhere from $150 -$250 weekly, but I'm feeding more than myself. You most likely will be able to get along on less. I also think once I get "the hang of it" and have a stocked pantry, It'll get more reasonably. Having a farmer's market near (this summer) will also help me to cut costs, and I can plan according to to what's in season. I am learning how to sprout now, which is an adventure in itself! I'm going to try a raw chili recipe. :)


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Thanks for answering my questiong Denise. Boy that sounds really expensive. Farmers market isn't that close to me, but could take the bus there. Generally speaking, what do you normally buy if you don't mind me asking?

Also, thanks for correcting me on Biggs. Got confused with Fruitarian and Raw diet. Still though, if he's eating fruit, isn't that still Raw?

Also, are there any ethical reasons as to go Raw? For example, how would NOT eating tofu be ethical compared to eating organic?

Thanks again Denise.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:05 pm 
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kollision wrote:
Thanks for answering my questiong Denise. Boy that sounds really expensive. Farmers market isn't that close to me, but could take the bus there. Generally speaking, what do you normally buy if you don't mind me asking?


It is expensive, but once I learn how to sprout it won't be as much so. I also am currently not in an area where I have a lot of bulk available to me (like bulk nuts, beans, apples, etc).

This week is:
Spaghetti Marinara - the spaghetti is squash (your choice of yellow or zucchini) which is shreaded with a peeler, the marinaria is raw tomatoes, garlic, onlions, spices, etc (will have to pull the recipe)
Fettuchini Alfredo - same type for "noodles" but the sauce is a raw tahini based
Stuffed Potabello caps
Mock Turkey Loaf
Nori Rolls -the "rice" is minced califlower
Broccoli in Raw Tahini Sauce (I like tahini)
Collard Rolls

Also, tons of salads and fruit I have raw salsa, spinach dip and tahini dressing to eat with them.

I'm still very new to this but really like the crispy foods and not so bloated and full feeling even though I am getting all my caloric intake.

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Also, thanks for correcting me on Biggs. Got confused with Fruitarian and Raw diet. Still though, if he's eating fruit, isn't that still Raw?

It is raw but only fruit. Fruitarians eat only foods of plant origin that can be obtained without killing the plant: fruits, nuts and seeds, for example.

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Also, are there any ethical reasons as to go Raw? For example, how would NOT eating tofu be ethical compared to eating organic?

Vegan, yes, organic, yes, fruitarians will argue that their way is ethical.

Other than that most people go raw for health reasons. Some are combating disease Pat Reeves (female power lifting champion) is one, many have had complete recovery from disease. I beleive Brendan Brazier is high raw. I personally feel better on raw food. So you could eat tofu and still be high raw, you just wouldn't be 100% raw.

I have been dabbleing in raw for a while and since my sisters illness (still in ICU) I have been unable to work out as much as I want. Raw has made me maintain my weight. Their are some bodybuilders on some of the sites, and also some figure competitiors. They say they feel much better on raw.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:11 pm 
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Wow your menu sounds really yummy. Never heard of this "Tahini" dressing. Is it mock dairy or something? Also, I take it that all these foods were bought at an organic place?



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It is raw but only fruit. Fruitarians eat only foods of plant origin that can be obtained without killing the plant: fruits, nuts and seeds, for example.


Ah ok thanks. So Fruitarian would be the "highest you can go" in regards to veganism? Such as it goes like, "Vegan -> Raw Vegan -> Fruitarian"?



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Vegan, yes, organic, yes, fruitarians will argue that their way is ethical.


How is Organic and Vegan ethical, yet Fruitarians are not automatically classified as such? If anything, I would think it would be the other way around since the reason they choose this path is because it doesn't kill the plants?

Thanks for letting me know on peoples experience on Raw foods. Hope your sister can pull through this.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:22 pm 
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kollision wrote:
Wow your menu sounds really yummy. Never heard of this "Tahini" dressing. Is it mock dairy or something? Also, I take it that all these foods were bought at an organic place?


Tahini is seseme seed "paste" and comes from the health food store (make sure it says raw)

If your a big fan of peanut butter, try Raw Almond butter....hmmm good.

Most of my food was bought in the organic section of my local grocery store. Some items had to be bought from the health food store, such as the tahini and several of the raw nuts.

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Ah ok thanks. So Fruitarian would be the "highest you can go" in regards to veganism? Such as it goes like, "Vegan -> Raw Vegan -> Fruitarian"?

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How is Organic and Vegan ethical, yet Fruitarians are not automatically classified as such? If anything, I would think it would be the other way around since the reason they choose this path is because it doesn't kill the plants?

I must have mis-worded that, it should have been most ethical. I am just learning about Fruitarianism, It definatly has less impact on the environment then any of the others. So they are all ethical.

I can't get around the whole protein, carb, vitamin daily intake. So I don't think I'll be fruitarian any time soon. And, I am still learning about raw. The site posted at the begining of the thread is great information. Storm lifts and has an e-book on bodybuilding which also features another bodybuilder.
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Hope your sister can pull through this

Thank-you :)


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:11 pm 
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I am a raw foodie. I am almost 100% raw for 6 months now. Everyone once in awhile I will eat a cooked food, a lightly steamed plate veggies from time to time (usually in a restaurant with a salad as raw food is limited in these places). I will be High RAW for life. I love how I feel & look eating living foods. I like my Blood Lipid Profile too.

Why did I go raw ? Well after 6 years of competition dieting, I am a Figure Competitor (well as of this month I am a retired competitor and will now only be an INBF and USBF Judge) & living on 1000-1200 cals a day (to stay lean that is all I could eat ) and eating daily 180 grams of protein, some veggies, oatmeal and limited fruit...I found myself with a sluggish metabolism, and a really screwed up digestive system. As the years went on I found with each new season I developed a new food allergy. First it was eggs...then shellfish..then after a season of show prep eating daily tuna and roughy...I am now allergic to ALL FISH, I cannot eat Soy and most recently whey..so what is a girl to do except ditch the diet and start over. My twin has been a raw foodie for awhile so she gave me the Raw Food Detox Diet to read..been Raw since the day I read it !

I am selective in my food selection and follow Gabriel Cousen's type of raw food diet. I am into the quick exit foods, and food combining as I have digestive issues otherwise.

I eat mostly greens, sea veggies and non sweet fruit like cucumber and tomato. I limit hybrid type veggies like carrots and limit root veggies (don't taste great raw anyway).

I am a HUGE green drink fan and will have them for meal 1-2 & 3 !! My favorite is Kale, Romaine, Parsley, Lemon and 1/2 an apple. I will add Celery &/or Cucumber too.

I eat only sprouted grains like buckwheat and a small amount of soft sprouted wheat. Usually use these in my uncooked recipes.

I limit my fruit to some berries and grapefruit and apple from time to time. I am not a big fan of sweet fruit. If I eat fruit it is meal one or on a fast type day...once I eat a meal I do not eat fruit again.

I do not use oil and get fats from Sprouted Pumpkin Seed, Sprouted Almonds and Hemp and a small amt. of Flax Seeds.

I eat Superfoods like a fool..Maca, Gogi Berries, Spirulina, Cholerella and Raw Cacao beans for NFL.

The sweetners I use in my recipes like my Rawsome Choc Hemp Protein Bars are Yacon and Mesquite and Stevia.

The only cooked food I have had this week is coffee. I have not totally nixed that from my morning routine. Oh, few chocolate chips I tasted at the health food store, they are not raw of course.

Side note when I first went Raw and detoxed, got used to the new diet my strength went down for awhile then WOW my energy is thru the roof. I no longer get drag ass tired mid day, my blood suagar is stable, no more reactive hypoglycemia, my triglycerides plummets to 22...my B-12 Iron thyroid and all all all optimal function..and I am a whole new gal..

Thats my scoop....soorry so long. :oops:


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:22 pm 
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Hey RawFigure! :)
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I eat only sprouted grains like buckwheat and a small amount of soft sprouted wheat. Usually use these in my uncooked recipes.

I really need to learn how to do this.

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I eat Superfoods like a fool..Maca, Gogi Berries, Spirulina, Cholerella and Raw Cacao beans for NFL.

I don't even know what these are! :shock:
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The only cooked food I have had this week is coffee. I have not totally nixed that from my morning routine.

Yeah, this is a tough one for me :?
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Thats my scoop....soorry so long. :oops:


Glad to see you posting! :D


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