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 Post subject: If you boil vegetables, you lose nutrients but what about
PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:09 pm 
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If you boil vegetables, you lose nutrients but what about roasting them in the oven. So say instead of boilining broccoli, cook it in the oven. Would you keep more of the nutrients in tact that way, or would the heat still suck the nutrients out?

So my question is how does boiling broccoli compare to roasting it in the oven, nutrition wise.???

(and please dont tell me to eat it raw!).

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:13 pm 
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Just try it raw! j/k :lol: :oops:

From what I've been told, when you heat the vegetable to a certain temp, you destroy the nutrients. So, I don't think it really matters how you heat it up IMO. :?


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Agreed. Certain nutrients aren't heat stable, and heat is heat whether it's wet or dry. You'll lose some nutritive value.

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damn i was afraid of that :(

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not sure of the heat exactly but if you fry f00d for 2 long and 2 high it actually becomes a carcinogen... just a heads up :)

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:43 am 
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my 2 cents.

There is a unique art to cooking Indian cuisine. Indian civilization are said to be the only & longest surviving till today. Second to that was the egyptian civilization.

Indian traditions are based on Vedas and Upanishads which are said to be the number one source of knowledge in the world. The oldest, the wisest.. they are said to have mapped & documented stuff, the earth, its size, and number of other before anyone else.

Hehe .. a little off topic.

But, essentially I think cooking has certain benefits in terms of killing pathogens etc (In india its recommeded to boil water as a means of killing bacteria etc).

RAW is good. But everything raw may not be ideal. We learnt over time that certain things could be better processed by our systems in certain ways.

My mom used to never throw away water or gravy that veggies were cooked in. It absorbs. In terms of nutrients.. there is not elimination but possibly more of a transformation. (Overcooked in oil.. is bad) but light cooking or boiling veggies is not that bad.

Ofcourse, balancing the raw (salads.. washed) and the cooked is important.


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That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for that post, crashnburn :D

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What nutrients are lost when water boils?

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Dang, that sucks about loosing some nutrients but I guess you'll be okay if you combine cooked and raw food. What about the microwave, i've heard that you loose nutrients but I'm not sure how much. Anyone know about that?


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The most important thing to consider about cooking is the loss of the enzymes that help digest and break up the food in the first place!

Eating raw and cooked makes no difference as everything is used up trying to process the cooked stuff.

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Roasting is worse, then baking would be next -- acrylamides form, especially with starches. The absolute worse for acrylamides would be to barbecue, though)

Steaming as lightly as possible is best if you are going to cook food.


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Okay, I'm going to put this point first:

Just been thinking about cooked food vs raw food:

We often talk about the economic and natural waste caused by the meat industry and the dairy industry etc..

I wonder how much energy and money we would save if the western world ceased to use ovens, electric hobs and gas stoves.

I bet just after a few days we would have saved enough energy and money to fund decent sanitation and clean water systems in the third world.

What are your thoughts on this?

As for our choices in the western world, where we have access to anything we want, when we want, how we want:

Steaming vegetables is supposed to be better than boiling.

Looking at the raw food argument from a biological, rather than macroenomic point of view: can the body actually ustilise raw broccoli, for example? I can't imagine eating it raw.

Another point: beans, peas and chickpeas are classed as fruit, right? We call them pulses, I know, but in German the word for pulses is "Hülsenfrüchte" and I seem to remember the 5-a-day campaign listing beans as a fruit. Anyway, I'm pretty sure these foods have to be cooked before we can digest them.

So my point is: is cooking really such a bad thing from a biological/physiological point of view? Or would raw foodists/fruitarians argue that anything that cannot be eaten in its natural state should not be consumed?

I believe cranberries also have to be cooked before they can be eaten by humans.

I can see where the raw foodists/fruitarians are coming from, and as I mentioned above, we would certainly save energy by just eating raw. At the moment I would say about 50% of my diet is made up of raw, unprocessed food...

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For me personaly it's more about what we want v's what we need.

But there will never be a clear answer on this I don't think. :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:11 pm 
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:shock:

Okay so just to keep this simple, between roasting in the oven and boiling veggies, roasting in the oven is worse?

Disclaimer: I only skimmed this thread (will give it the careful reading it deserves later. I didnt expect such long and useful/informative replies! :D THANKS!!!!).

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:17 am 
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I think roasting would retain more vitamins and minerals. Better would be steaming.


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