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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:44 pm 
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I just did but I'm only on my phone, lots of reading but my geeky sense is tingling with anticipation. How long did it take you to work out all your rep maxes?


Sorry, this got buried and I totally overlooked it!

I figured them all out over the course of my then current work outs for a full week. I didn't rely on calculating it, I did it physically so I would be exact.

The hard part came when I had to SD (strategically decondition) for a couple of weeks before I could start the program.

My body BLEW UP on that work out, and I did several cycles which took me from 145 lbs to about 175 lbs of lean mass.

Never during the course of any cycle did I fail to achieve my goals and I only progressively loaded constantly.

The reason I stopped is because I got several injuries I'm ashamed to say. Reason was I had gained so much strength and was lifting so frequently doing IMPROPER movements that I tore a back muscle, messed up a shoulder joint, strained the ligaments in my forearms, and pulled a ligament in my knee (childhood injury also).

I stopped because that program put so much strength on me it scared me. lol

I think if you do it make sure you don't over do anything and listen to your body. Take the time to plan everything before you do it because it is very well worth it. I have since learned proper form on every exercise I'll ever be interested in and always practice it, not only for going back to HST but because it is critical for my own personal joints because I'm an "ectomorph" and have the smaller weaker joints. So when I'm ready and prepared I just may go back to it! :boxer:


By no means am I calling you out but ... over what length of time did you put on 30 pounds of "lean mass"? I just find that a pretty high number considering that most males can only tack on about a pound or two of muscle a month and they still gain a bit of fat, too.

Also, aside from having weaker joints, don't buy into the hype of "body types" limiting you genetically. It's really all about pushing yourself as hard as you can without getting hurt - kudos on making sure you're using proper form, too! I bet you still saw some growth and strength increase after doing some adjusting.

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 Post subject: Re: diet plan critique and advice
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:21 am 
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I gained that over a period of about 1 1/2 years and I did put on quite a bit of fat with that in the end. It wasn't until I lost the weight through a vegan diet that I saw what my "lean" gains were.

Most people do things based in "bro science" so they don't really have optimum gains on a consistent basis. I was lucky to run up on something scientifically based coupled with the discipline to carry it out.

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 Post subject: Re: diet plan critique and advice
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:00 pm 
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HorseSense wrote:
I gained that over a period of about 1 1/2 years and I did put on quite a bit of fat with that in the end. It wasn't until I lost the weight through a vegan diet that I saw what my "lean" gains were.

Most people do things based in "bro science" so they don't really have optimum gains on a consistent basis. I was lucky to run up on something scientifically based coupled with the discipline to carry it out.


Bro-science is the worst science. Because it's not real.

On a serious note: 1 1/2 years is an ample amount of time for those kind of gains - way to go, mate!

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 Post subject: Re: diet plan critique and advice
PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:01 am 
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On a serious note: 1 1/2 years is an ample amount of time for those kind of gains - way to go, mate!


Thanks! People still accused me of being on steroids. They thought they were insulting me but it was such a huge compliment! If they only knew, I was barely even drinking my protein shakes. :lachmal:

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