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Soy Allergy?

#1 Postby SeaSiren » Mon May 15, 2006 4:11 pm

Upping protein to 40% intake (new program which starts today) and was having a tofu stir fry (tofu, green pepper & onions cooked in a little olive oil w/ touch of sea salt and black pepper). VERY shortly after intake I felt like someone hit me in the head with a baseball bat. Then I became extremely congested in my sinuses and finally had trouble swallowing. I have never had this kind of reaction but don't take in this much soy in a sitting normally.

Which got me thinking:
I have been using Soy Protein Shakes and originally added lite soy milk to mix it, it made me really sick. I though it was just "too heavy" and began to only use water. After drinking the soy protein I am always very lethargic and felt weak and sleepy which I though ment I maybe had a great workout. Now I am beginnning to wonder if I am developing a soy allergy.

I have never though I had one, but then again I didn't develope my latex allergy until I was 22, even though I had never had one prior. Same with cat dander, now I can't pet a cat without itching and if I am around one prolonged have severe respiratory problems.

Could I be developing one even tough I hadn't had noticible problem at first?

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#2 Postby Last of the Sane » Mon May 15, 2006 5:52 pm

Yeah, it sucks but it is possible. I have to do an allergietest everyone 6 months or so, because they keep changing. Right now I'm allergic to milk (which I wasn't before I went vegan), nuts and some seeds. I used to be allergic to soy too, but luckily I grew over that. So on the bright side, if you actually are allergic to soy it is possible that it will go away in a few months.

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#3 Postby Tarz » Wed May 17, 2006 5:26 am

Compassionategirl had this strange soy allergy once - it disappeared pretty much as soon as it came. It did all kinds of strange things to her throat too......
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#4 Postby compassionategirl » Tue May 30, 2006 8:11 pm

Tarz wrote:Compassionategirl had this strange soy allergy once - it disappeared pretty much as soon as it came. It did all kinds of strange things to her throat too......

Hmm, sorry I didnt see this thread sooner. Yup, I too have found that lately, when I eat some soy products like tofu and soy milk, I feel:

!) Lethargic and irritable always right after and it lasts for a few hours or the rest of the day
2) My throat gets all scratchy and weird.

I think I too developed a soy allergy, which sucks cuz I love Silk Choc Soy Milk.
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#5 Postby chesty leroux » Tue May 30, 2006 8:25 pm

same for me...i've quit soy for the most part. Once in a while i'll have some tempeh or a vegan hot dog from the cart downtown. It's supposed to be ok if its fermented. But i've switched to rice milk and just use nutritional yeast as a cheese sub and don't eat any burgers anymore except for the grain based amys one and sunshine burgers.
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#6 Postby Imaginary Colours » Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:31 pm

I've been taking a soy protein powder lately, and I've noticed that afterwards I feel extremely full and BLOATED. I did all sorts of research, thinking that I may have a soy allergy, but I don't have any of the other allergy symptoms such as nausea or what has been described here. :?

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#7 Postby SeaSiren » Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:54 pm

Apparently it was interfereing with my thyroid, so my "symptoms" flared up directly after consuming it. They made me really lethargic. So I may not be allergic, it just interferes with my thyroid.

I am on day 3 of no soy and feel much better! My protein was hemp today and I felt soooo good afterward. Hey, I may be on to something. :wink:

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#8 Postby bighead » Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:44 pm

i've had this soy allergy problem, but it's apparently different from what you all got.

basically, i have a reaction anytime I eat anything with soy (protein, oil, lecithin, etc) even in very small amounts (i.e., just an ingredient low on the list)

my reaction: my skin breaks out. it sucks. i get face and back acne if soy is in my diet in any way. if i keep soy out, i have completely clear skin. i asked a friend of my who has two degrees in nutrition and she said it sounds more hormonal. which made me think: phytoestrogens! they are probably f**king with my hormones. that would cause acne. it's like it sends me back to puberty.

so the symptoms some of you described (lethargy, nausea, headaches, bloating) can all be attributed to at least some extent to hormonal changes or imbalances. basically, the more isoflavones you are ingesting, the more the balance of available hormones in your body is tipping to one side, and then you feel like crap.

i think that's why Rob and some of the other bodybuilders on here have more or less switched to other proteins like those in Vega (pea, hemp, nuts, etc).

i know that i use brown rice protein powder, and to a lesser extent hemp and spirulina. i also m ake sure to eat lots of quinoa, amaranth, and buckwheat for my grains, and tons of split peas (green and yellow), lentils (all kinds), chickpeas, and adzukis (including green which you know as mung).

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#9 Postby Kathryn » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:24 am

Sounds like an allergy, or at least a sensitivity.
Try changing your soy protein for hemp or a rice/pea blend (after I did this, I realised that the soy had been the culprit in some digestive disturbances I'd been having!).

You might be able to tolerate tempeh. The culturing process it goes through makes it more digestible (just like people who have dairy sensitivities can sometimes tolerate yogurt).

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#10 Postby Attila » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:08 am

Wow, that sounds very tough! :shock:

I've heard of a few guys in my environement who have a soy allergy but I never felt some symptons myself and that would really be a shame: I love all kinds of soy - yoghurts, ice cream, tofu, tofuburger, soydrink and so on.

I really can't imagine a life without soy products! :shock:



#11 Postby veganpotter » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:12 am

I've got a friend thats allergic to eggs, dairy, nuts, most seeds, wheat and soy...I feel terrible for her. She can eat peas and some beans(lentils mostly but most other beans bug her) and she also can't eat most raw fruits and veggies...its really weird. She can eat meat without any reactions but she doesn' everything she eats is cooked and nearly the same every day other than the occational change from peas to edible beans

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#12 Postby SeaSiren » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:26 pm

I am seeing much better strength gains without soy thus far. I don't miss it terribly, just adjusting. I think the thing I will miss most is Tofurky for the holidays.

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#13 Postby offense74 » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:31 pm

I have soy "issues". All I do is stay off it for awhile and then start eating small amounts again. It usually isn't permanent, allthough once you know you've had it you know your sensitive to soy and should probably act thereafter.
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#14 Postby veganpotter » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:24 pm

Someones gotta make a soyless tofu...I couldn't imagine life without tofu(one of the few things keeping me from going full raw) even when I was an omnivore...I have had a soy free hot dog before(don't remember where my friend got it from) which was kinda weird but still tasted pretty good(just not like a normal soy dog)

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Re: soy???

#15 Postby Kathryn » Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:02 pm

veganpotter wrote:Someones gotta make a soyless tofu...

I remember reading about a tofu-like thing that was made out of hemp (in China?).

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