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 Post subject: Re: A Calorie Is Still A Calorie, No Matter Where It Comes F
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:00 pm 
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HorseSense wrote:
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Injuries? He doesn't like exercise?


He can't count calories?



Some people don't care.

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He really likes food? Compulsive habits?


My point exactly. Animals don't have this problem.


That isn't correct. Dogs will eat until they get sick. So will some monkeys. Probably more examples out there, but I am not a biologist.


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Lack of interest?


:lachmal: :lachmal: :lachmal: :lachmal: :lachmal: :lachmal: :lachmal:


Why are you laughing at that. You can't conceive that someone could be an enthusiastic physiology researcher but not care for exercise?

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He likes research so much he uses all of his time up with it?


:lachmal: :lachmal: :lachmal: :lachmal: :lachmal: :lachmal: :lachmal:


You've never had a job you have been so into you have consistently stayed it at until late and maybe blown other things off?

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A long commute?


WTF?


Never had one of those or known someone who has?

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Caring for an ill loved one?


:roll: :roll: :roll:


Never had one of those or heard of it eh? Sometimes between a job, caring for an ill relative and other things people don't have time or energy to take care of themselves. I hope in your life you only have to take my word for it.

I started this thread with fitness related from a reputable source. From your responses I gathered you didn't read, didn't understand or didn't want to understand what was in that post. I tried to elucidate on some of those points, giving you the benefit of the doubt. You have responded with rude and/or immature replies.

I'll allow you to have the last word in this conversation.

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 Post subject: Re: A Calorie Is Still A Calorie, No Matter Where It Comes F
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:12 pm 
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The article made sense to me.

Many studies have been done that show no difference in weight loss based on composition of a diet. (including the ones mentioned in the article). If your compare a group of people on a soda and fast food diet to a group on a plant based diet who are given same number of calories per day, their weight loss would be the same (not saying anything about their health). But of course in real life, intake is not controlled like in a study - people on a fast food plan will likely end up taking in a lot more calories.

So from a scientific perspective.. a calorie is a calorie (that's simple physics!). From a real world perspective.. your food choices WILL have an impact on your total calorie intake - whether or not you choose to count those calories.

I'm thinking tho, if someone really wants to lose weight.. the olive oil diet would probably be far more effective than Atkins. Bleh. :vom:


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 Post subject: Re: A Calorie Is Still A Calorie, No Matter Where It Comes F
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:22 am 
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stcalico wrote:
Many studies have been done that show no difference in weight loss based on composition of a diet. (including the ones mentioned in the article).

And many other studies show significant differences based on nutrient composition. That's the problem. You can't trust any of these studies individually, and you shouldn't trust anything you haven't at least scanned yourself.

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So from a scientific perspective.. a calorie is a calorie (that's simple physics!).

This is true, but also mostly irrelevant. In terms of energy, a calorie is a calorie, but we don't ingest pure energy, as cool as that would be. We have to go through several steps to extract that energy, and then we use it in different ways depending on the needs of our bodies. Sometimes we don't use all of it, and sometimes it costs more to extract it.

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 Post subject: Re: A Calorie Is Still A Calorie, No Matter Where It Comes F
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:01 am 
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If a calorie is just a calorie then I could consume all of my calories from alcohol.
Therefore it is a truely flawed concept.


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