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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:13 am 
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I agree with 4 out of 5, not the dairy statement...

http://www.yummymummyclub.ca/blogs/sara ... tion-myths


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 Post subject: Re: 5 nutrition myths
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Yeah, the whole dairy thing may be the biggest nutritional fraud ever propagated on the american public by the government(USDA). It started back in the depression when dairy farmers refused to sell their milk at very low prices and instead choose to pour it out on the ground. The government thought we can't have this while people are starving, so the government started buying the milk which eventually lead to dairy subsidies basically putting the government into the dairy business. So of course, then they had to start promoting the supposed benefits of it to move their product.

People often think about things other cultures around the world consume which seem gross to us, but yet they think consuming something that comes from the utter of a cow normal just because that is what they grew up doing.

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 Post subject: Re: 5 nutrition myths
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I totally agree. Do you have a link to any of the information you just relayed, I thought it was very interesting and would like to pass it along to others.

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 Post subject: Re: 5 nutrition myths
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I learned about this is of documentary type show several years ago. They showed actual video of the dairy farmers pouring the milk out. There may be video of it on YouTube?

I will see if I can find something online about it.

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 Post subject: Re: 5 nutrition myths
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Here are a few quick links I found about the great depression pouring of milk. I will try to get more info. on the government involvement when I have time.

http://www.ehow.com/facts_7150986_gover ... milk_.html
http://www.kgbanswers.com/during-the-gr ... k/10233665
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3468301232.html
Under Foreclosure and Dispossession section
'Wisconsin farmers hijacked milk trucks and spilled their contents in an effort to raise milk prices and protect their farms."

http://www.livinghistoryfarm.org/farmin ... ey_11.html

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 Post subject: Re: 5 nutrition myths
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Concerning the USDA subsides:

http://farm.ewg.org/progdetail.php?fips ... code=dairy If you click on top recipients you can see exactly what various farms are receiving.

http://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/animal-p ... olicy.aspx USDA website explaining how they support the price of milk.

http://www.fas.usda.gov/excredits/deip/deip-new.asp USDA even supports the exporting of milk.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/12/ ... HM20091217 Apparently anytime prices drop too low the USDA comes in and gives special payments to the dairy farmers.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/cnd/lunch/About ... ory_11.htm USDA pushes milk in the schools.

http://www.freakonomics.com/2008/07/24/ ... al-truths/
Talks about farm subsidies in general.

My point here is not to knock the farmers themselves. I realize farming is hard work and we certainly need them to live. But this is what happens when a government agency that is responsible for educating the public on what is supposedly healthy food gets involved in the subsidizing of food, it is only natural that they then will begin to promote these foods. The USDA recommendations on food intake have been terrible for years for many reasons, not just with the dairy intake recommendations. They have changed the food pyramid many times over the years but haven't really improved it very much as far as healthy recommendations except for increasing the recommendated intake of fruits/vegs slightly.

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Wow that is a ton! Thank you very much for looking all of that up!


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The PhytoAthlete wrote:
this is what happens when a government agency that is responsible for educating the public on what is supposedly healthy food gets involved in the subsidizing of food, it is only natural that they then will begin to promote these foods. The USDA recommendations on food intake have been terrible for years for many reasons, not just with the dairy intake recommendations. They have changed the food pyramid many times over the years but haven't really improved it very much as far as healthy recommendations except for increasing the recommendated intake of fruits/vegs slightly.


Oh, man, so true. But the thing that frightens me most is how quickly and without chewing most people gulp down whatever medical/health facts-du-jour the government and other "reputable agencies" shovel at them. It ain't about health, it's economics, pure and simple. If it were really about health, every tobacco farm south of the Mason-Dixon Line would have been converted to hemp and organic veggie farms loooong ago. (Okay, there probably are a few hemp "farms" down there right now but I'll bet you money that they aren't the type people report on their income tax.)

Lewis Black has some enlightened stand up comedy about the subject of health and gov involvement but brace yourself for a slew of profanity if you ain't from effin' New York. (C.O. will explain it to you.) Go to 2 minutes in for the beginning of his health bit that starts with some hilarious observations about milk, 6 minutes in for his bit on bottled water....



Continued....at 2 minutes in, he makes an enlightened point.



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