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Vegan and acne

#1 Postby danus » Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:53 am

hi i'm new to this forum who is looking for a solution to solve my acne which i'm experiencing for more than 3 months now. Little bit about before vegan and after vegan

i used to be under weight for long 3 years during my universities. very care full on what i eat i have very very tinny bit of meat and medium portions of grains and mostly veges and haven't had a single acne on my face.

last year i was start bulking and gained reasonable amount of weight. i was eating chicken Brest, lean beef, when protein powder, oats, eggs , peanuts, almonds, fish, brown rice and bcaa and glutamine. this for for 6 months and still my face was clear.

4 months ago i starting to realize that this is not a healthy way of dieting and starting to give up whey and replace with pea / rice protein and incorporating beans and legumes in my diet, this is when i starting to realize i'm starting to get acne this is when i'm starting to cutting.

then i thought it could be all the meat i eat for this past 6 months, so i cut them as well and replaced with beans and legumes and vegan protein shakes(pea/ rice).

i managed to control it which is better than before but i need get acne at leat once a week, especcially on my cheeks..

i also realized that peanuts especally fatty food also the culprit so i cut them done as well as eggs and oats as well..

and no more bcaa and glutamine since they increase the igf-1.

i'm not sure whether the vegan protein powder i'm consuming is causing this or the beans and legumes. my mind is keep going back and forth, whether should i switch to the bulking diet i was doing , but i dont want to only look healthy i want to feel healthy as well. so i like the vegan diet but not sure whether it is appropriate to me.

any one who have similar experience please,please try to give some advice..

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Re: Vegan and acne

#2 Postby Siren » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:52 am

It's probably all those powders.

I notice that my face is clean now that I don't consume soy protein powders. It could be a coincidence but I would try going off the powders for a few days to see if it makes a difference.

Definitely, bread will cause me acne too, as will high fat foods. I stick to eating mostly raw and then having a low fat high carb cooked dinner. But then again, I'm a female and my goal is to be leaner, not bulky.

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Re: Vegan and acne

#3 Postby danus » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:23 am

well. it is quit strange to pinpoint the underlying cause. when i was underweight i used to eat white bread every night, but now i can't eat any wheat products they break me out. i need to get my protein from some sources either from beans & legumes or vegan protein powders, any one could recommend me and specific brand or do you guys actually relies on protein powders. currently i'm using bulkpowder brown rice protein, bulkpowder pea protein and reflex pea protein (they all are uk brands). i wonder does beans cause acne as well. since it is not digested properly so the undigested portions then could build toxic inside the body i guess.

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Re: Vegan and acne

#4 Postby Eiji » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:08 pm

Stick to whole foods, throw out the protein powders. They're useless anyway and a big drain on the wallet.

Good supplements that are actually worth the money:
Creatine
Beta-alanine if you need extra muscular endurance. Does not increase power or hypertrophy.
B12 obviously
BCAAs if you train often and hard.
Make no excuses to skip a training session. Feel stressed, sad, sick or tired? Go train. Your friends, your heart, mind and body will lie to you. Telling you that you need that recovery day. Go ahead, stay home. I'll be training that day and getting better no matter what.

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Re: Vegan and acne

#5 Postby solz » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:14 pm

I used whey = Acne, I tried soy = Acne, and I tried brown rice + peas = Acne. (All powder)

I think I given up on find a reliable powder power that doesn't cause me to break out :(.

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Re: Vegan and acne

#6 Postby danus » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:54 am

what i found out is that all protein powders including vegan protein powders are not whole food they are processed. when the protein powders get processed they form MSG, and they are denatured which your body doesn't recognize them any more compare to the whole food.
plus most animal and vegan protein brands contains toxic (google it.). but i heard that hemp protein and spirulina are safe but who knows if you are using that in daily basis then they will wreck your system.

http://www.dailybitesblog.com/2014/01/28/protein-powder/

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Re: Vegan and acne

#7 Postby jmf » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:46 am

Danus: you're paraphrasing bits of information and applying it to a broader scope, which is simply wrong. For instance, the article does not say ALL protein powder is denatured, but you did. This is simply not true...and anybody who has properly and successfully implemented a protein supplement into their diet is well aware.

This is the type of bad interpretation that causes vegans to to take one piece of good information and turn it into bad general advice. If all new vegans took your interpretation to heart, a descent percentage would be "failed" vegans, so please be careful of how you interpret information before disseminating.

As for your acne, I suggest a more systematic approach to eliminate. If you suspect the protein powder, simply remove ONLY the protein supplementation from your diet and see what happens. (might take at least a month) Then add the SAME protein powder back, changing NOTHING else, with the same quantities and schedule, and see if the acne returns. If that is proven to be the ONLY cause, then you have learned something very valuable and your next step is more clear.

Protein powder may/may not be the culprit....most struggle with the additional fiber for about a year...and others tend to resort to an "oil heavy" diet first becoming vegan (which may cause acne). Only a systematic approach will reveal the culprit...please share your findings!

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Re: Vegan and acne

#8 Postby danus » Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:22 am

jmf: thanks for your post. as you mentioned i will be re-introduing it back to see if the protein suplement may be the culprit. because my gut is leaky ("leaky gut") any thing could be a trigger, so i'm not sure to blame it on the protein powder. it could be the whey protein i had previously wreck my gut.. currently i'm healing it by avoiding anything i'm allegic to now, and yes it is tough to live with only certain foods.

also do you guys react differently to sprouted vs un-sprouted rice/ pea protein powder. i'm thinking to get one for my self.

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Re: Vegan and acne

#9 Postby tylerpc73 » Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:33 pm

When I first went vegan I saw a significant decrease in my acne. I have heard other people react the same exact way as me
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Re: Vegan and acne

#10 Postby twwalks » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:08 pm

Whenever I personally see skin issues, immediately I think there are issues in the gut. http://www.naturalnews.com/021914_large_intestine_skin_health.html#
As you mentioned you have a leaky gut, so I would put a lot less emphasis on what you are eating and more on what you are currently missing. Go on a heavy gut healing routine. This usually includes 3 things,
1. Lots of beneficial bacteria, through un-pasteurized fermented foods such as sauerkraut + kimchi + coconut yogurt. I also say take some intense probiotics for at least a month
2. Killing bad bacteria, there is tons of information on how to cleanse the bad bacteria, I have done lots of different supplements such as black walnut, oil of oregano, there is a list of all the ones. (http://myjourneywithcandida.blogspot.ca/2010/07/herbs-and-supplements-that-help-rid.html)
3. Try limiting allergenic foods while you are doing this. Usually alcohol, grains, peanuts, soy, etc etc. Don't have to do it long term but just while you are repairing your gut. Also focus on reducing stress because it can really impact your gut health.
If you do a month of that I think you will notice you respond better to a number of foods.
Personally I used the above steps and I got rid of acne and I some bad eczema. Hope they help :)

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Re: Vegan and acne

#11 Postby danus » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:10 am

yes you are right. All problems root cause is gut. currently i'm taking some supplements
colostrum
bifido probiotic - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Probiota-Bifido-Caps-Seeking-Health/dp/B009I35HMG?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00

coconut - i react to canned coconut milk this may be the additives, but i'm fine with the raw meat.
vitamin d3
vitamin b12
raw garlic 1 clove a day
oregano oil - 5-6 drops a day before meal.

fermented products give a problem because i just found out that i became histamine intolerance because of my poor gut health.
I'm going to try adding black walnut and milk thistle. after i added coconut and garlic in my diet i start having headache, brain-fog and a pain around my eyes for a day. This could be die off symptom.
Also i have found a home remedy for headache or heavy headed + brain fog. My mum used to do it and she got this from her's mum which is used in ancient medicine. all you have to do is fill a bag of 3-4 rice in the pillow cover, tie them of not very tightly to make rice pillow, and rest you head on it when you go for a sleep. try different positions during the sleep, and on the next morning you will please fresh and have a relief.


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