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Straight edge?

#1 Postby brendan » Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:15 pm

I don't know if this has been addressed in an earlier thread, but I was wondering who all on board is straight edge and how you define that for yourself. I 'spose I'm straight edge, though I've never really labeled myself as that.

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#2 Postby kollision » Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:02 pm

What is straight-edge mate? Ive only heard about that with Music...

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#3 Postby brendan » Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:11 pm

Ah yeah, I guess I should've been more specific since it's associated with hardcore. I mean in terms of abstinence from alcohol, tabacco and drugs, etc. I've never really defined myself as 'straight edge,' but when a lot of people find out I don't drink and such, they ask me if I am.

Here's more about it in case anyone else was wondering:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_edge

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#4 Postby V VII Hero » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:06 pm

Im straight edge.
no drinking
no smoking
no premiscuous sex

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#5 Postby kollision » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:49 am

Ah thanks then mate.

Im Straight Edge then.

I personally dont like alcohol, but will take like a sip or two of something I never had before just to see how it tastes (and I normally just give it back because I don't like it). Would that make me not straight edge? Or would I still be since i dont go out and buy alcohol and drink it all the time (I just sip just to taste it and thats it).

The rest I fall in it though. Still a virgin and don't plan on breaking that till I am married (if ever even).

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#6 Postby V VII Hero » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:50 am

straight edge is a conscious decision. you decide one day that you want to label yourself as "straight edge", and you vowe to never touch alcohol EVER again, not even a sip. the same goes for smoking and premisucous sex. so unless you vowe to permanently give up those things, and label yourselfe edge, you arent sXe, youre just drug-free.

kollision, you would be "drug-free".
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I'm a virgin as well and waiting til I'm married/in love.

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#7 Postby CollegeB » Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:21 pm

Hey Topher did you decide to be edge or vegan first?

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#8 Postby V VII Hero » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:32 pm

CollegeB wrote:Hey Topher did you decide to be edge or vegan first?


I went straight edge first, and a couple months later decided to go vegan.

Ive been sXe and vegan for about 2 yrs now.

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#9 Postby kollision » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:41 pm

V VII Hero wrote:straight edge is a conscious decision. you decide one day that you want to label yourself as "straight edge", and you vowe to never touch alcohol EVER again, not even a sip. the same goes for smoking and premisucous sex. so unless you vowe to permanently give up those things, and label yourselfe edge, you arent sXe, youre just drug-free.

kollision, you would be "drug-free".
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I'm a virgin as well and waiting til I'm married/in love.



OOo I see, thanks a lot for the definition.

So is wine considered not being straight edge? I mean it has cases of it being healthy for you and all? And if this is the case, does that mean those that take medicine is not straight edge as well? Or there are limitations?

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#10 Postby brendan » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:44 pm

I've heard the term loosely defined. Thanks for the clarification, Topher. Count me out, though - I do like me some wine in cooking.

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#11 Postby V VII Hero » Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:57 pm

brendan wrote:I've heard the term loosely defined. Thanks for the clarification, Topher. Count me out, though - I do like me some wine in cooking.



the purpose behind straight edge is to not let substances control you.
the alcohol burns off when you cook. so you could still be straightedge and cook with wine if you wanted, as long as your intentions arent to get #@$#@ up off it. so cooking with wine is fine since it burns off and just leaves the flavor.

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#12 Postby kollision » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:15 pm

V VII Hero wrote:
brendan wrote:I've heard the term loosely defined. Thanks for the clarification, Topher. Count me out, though - I do like me some wine in cooking.



the purpose behind straight edge is to not let substances control you.
the alcohol burns off when you cook. so you could still be straightedge and cook with wine if you wanted, as long as your intentions arent to get #@$#@ up off it. so cooking with wine is fine since it burns off and just leaves the flavor.


Well I sip alcohol without the intention of getting drunk either, just to see how it tastes like.

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#13 Postby DanDz » Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:02 am

I consider myself straight-edge by definition. No drinking, no smoking, no drugs, no illicit sex. I was first exposed to the concept at the age of 14 when my brother told me about it. At that age when alot of other kids were starting to "experiment" with intoxicants and the like to fit in, we simply had no interest in it. In some ways we probably felt like outsiders. But then discovering that there was a youth movement formed in the early to mid 90's called "Sraight-Edge" gave us a whole new form of motivation to keep our bodies clean. Soon enough my brother discovered the band Youth of Today. Lead by Ray Cappo, who is from Connecticut (my state), they started the whole movement. As Ray Cappo started to also become well-versed in eastern philosophies and spirituality, vegetarianism also became an unofficial part of the movement. While not a "requirement," many straight-edge kids adopted this straight-edge vegan diet because it fit in with the whole lifestyle and also the idea of keeping the body clean and pure. Incendentally, Ray Cappo's vegetarianism was bolstered by his interest in Krisna Conciousness...(I actually have a close friend who was a krisna monk for a while), his interests expanded greatly into the world of spirituality. While the ever changing hardcore scene fluctuates as usual, the spirit of the straight-ege movement is still there in many people. From the people in their early 30's who first embraced the movement then, to the teenage kid today who rejects the current societal embracement of teenage intoxication as a normal occurrence and right of passage...the straight-edge message is still strong. For those who are confused. Straight-edge is not a club or organization, so there are no "requirements." But it is a label that can hold a group of people together who stand for the same beliefs and simply for the individual who won't make compromises on his convictions. The rejection of drugs, alcohol, illicit sex, and for most meat-eating makes so much sense. I once viewed it almost as a sign of rebelliousness from the mainstream, but today I am the same way. Although I never really X'ed up (putting X's on your hands to mark that you are straight-edge), although my brother and friends often did, I still call myself straight-edge if someone asks me. It is so healthy for the body and shows that you stand up for what you believe in! Straight-edge vegan for life...no compromise!!!

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#14 Postby DanDz » Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:10 am

I always get annoyed when people cite studies proclaiming the benefits of red wine. If you read further into it, the part of the wine that makes it "healthy" is just the nutrients that are released from the grapes. The same effect can be achieved, but more efficiently by drinking a glass of grape juice. The way I see it, not consuming intoxicants is not about labeling yourself straight-edge, but it is rather about respecting this God given body. Anyway you slice it, alcohol is poison. It has all the characteristics of poison...concentrated doses in large amounts will kill and its consumption can affect motor skills and the nervous sytem. I won't consume alcohol because it is poison for the body. About prescription or over-the-counter drugs, I won't consume them either. They most certainly do more harm than good. Instead of treating the cause and identifying what caused the sickness, the drugs only try to fix the sympotoms. This has lead me to embrace naturopathic medicine and I am striving to become one. The straight-edge movement is about keeping the mind clear, the body clean, and the soul pure. It is most certainly a philosophy we all can embrace!

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#15 Postby CollegeB » Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:53 am

Dan you are so right.


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