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 Post subject: Strict Vegan Diets May Be Dangerous
PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:13 am 
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Caught your attention hmm. I found this article right now about this guy who says you need animal products to survive. Of course I don't believe it though. Thought maybe some people whould like to read it. The site :arrow: http://chetday.com/vegandietdangers.htm

Here's a part from the article, "I think it's important for most people, especially individuals like me who zealously followed strict vegan diets for several years, to eat some "clean" and minimally processed animal foods as their body needs point out to them.

I currently eat health food store butter and free-range eggs as well as deep sea salmon. I don't drink milk, though I will occasionally have some organic, raw milk cheese or yogurt made from cows that are pasture fed and not injected with antibiotics and hormones. I try to avoid all supermarket dairy products. In September of 2002, we added grass-fed, organic beef to our diets. I eat these animal foods when my body tells me I need them. I'll go for days (and sometimes weeks) without an egg, and suddenly I'll know by a strong craving that I need some eggs, so I'll eat them until that feeling goes away. Ditto for fish. Ditto for cheese. Ditto for beef and chicken.

The ovo-lacto vegetarian diet (plants and eggs and dairy) seems to me to be an excellent choice for those who wish to avoid eating animal flesh."


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what a fruit.. I dont buy it

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please don't associate my glorious fruit with this schmuck :lol:


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hahahaha, Im sorry, what a MEAT HEAD!

Better ? :)

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He knows 'by a strong craving' therefore he does it? If I ate whatever I craved, believe me, I would not be healthy. Where's the evidence? Why ignore the evidence of the thousands of healthy vegans? He says most long-term vegans are liars and that they don't follow veganism IE they aren't even vegan... He also says that veganism can be bad for teenagers because they burn a lot of calories, and says that they require a 'spectrum of nutrients' then doesn't specify the nutrients. What nutrients don't we get from a vegan diet? And what stops vegan teenagers getting just as many calories as non-vegan teenagers? Most of that article seems nonsensical to me.

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I think he's just trying to justify by his 'bodily cravings" what are actually just a jones for cheese or beef or whatever he wants the taste of (and not 'needs the nutrients of'). Kinda like when my body 'craves" some vegan Pecan Joy candy!

Who is this Chet Day anyway? What is his background in nutrition? Just sounds like a disgruntled vegan/vegetarian to me.


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The only healthy animal food is fish. The rest expect some chicken is garbage.


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GGreen wrote:
The only healthy animal food is fish. The rest expect some chicken is garbage.

I don't know if I would call fish healthy. Maybe the least unhealthy would be more accurate.
Except that nearly all fish, at least in the US, are very contaminated with chemicals.

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I think this guy has gone around and told a lot of church goers to eat his halleluah diet, and they are complaining that its not good, and that plenty of them are getting sick from eating lots of large salads, so he's trying to cover his rear. I also agree with Kathryn and Richard. Cravings...bs.


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MontanaVegan wrote:
GGreen wrote:
The only healthy animal food is fish. The rest expect some chicken is garbage.

I don't know if I would call fish healthy. Maybe the least unhealthy would be more accurate.
Except that nearly all fish, at least in the US, are very contaminated with chemicals.


I would be afraid to eat the fish caught in the river near my house. Years ago we did eat snook caught here but knowing what runs off into the river, no way would I touch it.

I am starting an organic garden and I think I need to get soil samples before I grow.

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I found the craving thing a bit funny. :) It's sad that everything is becoming contaminated. There was this lake my grandpa took me to when I was about 6 years old, and there were a lot of dead fish around the shore. The lake was all nasty.


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GGreen wrote:
The only healthy animal food is fish.


Fish (at least at the size humans eat) is high on top of the food chain, eating not only algae, but smaller fish, so any contaminants are concentrated in its flesh. Also, not only do they drink the water they are in, but they are surrounded by it, so if the water is contaminated (and most water is nowdays), they also pick that up.


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This guy's info doesn't really add up. He needs to provide specifics.

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CollegeB wrote:
I think this guy has gone around and told a lot of church goers to eat his halleluah diet...

Actually, the Hallelujah diet is a raw food, vegan diet that has nothing to do with this guy. I think he's probably a cattle rancher!


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:19 pm 
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Haha. He doesnt seem to zealous about people eating meat though. I didnt see any name calling or "scientific" studies to show diets without animal proteins are bad.


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