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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:20 am 
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V VII Hero wrote:
I got 56 beats per minute if I count each thump (it sounds bah-bump..bah-bump, bah-bump...).

thump="bah-bump"=1 beat

did I do that right? or do I count the "bah-bump" as 2 beats?


DOnt listen, just feel. BTW your beats are pretty low, signs of a healthy man.


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yeh i feel. and i feel a thump each time (bah-bump, bah-bump, bah-bump...). so that thumpcounts as 1, right? like everytime i feel a thump, i dont count 2, 4, 6, 8. etc. right?

im still confused as to how to count the beats. maybe im just tired and rambling but i honestly cannot figure out if i counted right

56beats per minutes if i counted right.


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V VII Hero wrote:
yeh i feel. and i feel a thump each time (bah-bump, bah-bump, bah-bump...). so that thumpcounts as 1, right? like everytime i feel a thump, i dont count 2, 4, 6, 8. etc. right?

im still confused as to how to count the beats. maybe im just tired and rambling but i honestly cannot figure out if i counted right

56beats per minutes if i counted right.


I have no clue what you are talking about. I just have one bump. I dont feel "bah bump".


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okay nm.

56 beats per minute it is. so that's good? cool. thanks.


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V VII Hero wrote:
okay nm.

56 beats per minute it is. so that's good? cool. thanks.


It is really good, beyond good actually.


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Yeah, Hero, bah-bump counts as 1 beat.

When I was young and in really, really good shape, my resting pulse (first thing in the morning before I got out of bed) was 39-42 bpm. These days, it is generally around 45-50, which is good, but not great. If I take my pulse during the day, it varies depending on what I have been doing. If I have been lazy and haven't worked out, it might be 55-60. If I have been active, it might be 60-70. If I have just finished a workout, it might be 90. So, yeah, 56 bpm at this time of day is really pretty good. No problem there.

But as Kollision points out, what you feel might not be your heart "racing" (as in going really fast), it might be your heart "pounding" (as in your blood pressure is really high). You can probably get it tested for free at a clinic. Sometimes, drug stores or grocery stores have blood pressure machines in the front. If you feel like you heart is pounding, then you should probably check out your blood pressure next.

Hope you are feeling better. :(

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Hey Toph-Dog.

Sorry to hear that you're sick :(

Don't worry, you'll get over it! I know, i have been through similar problems ;)

It could be the soy. If i'd make a guess, i'd say you've been stressing your digestion system too much with all the forced eating. All the bread, pasta and soy are a stress to your intestines. Eat less, and it will be better digested and used, you don't need to fear that you get less energy then. In fact, you make better use of what you eat.
I've heard that you can eat too much of a certain food until you become allergic, but that only happens if you really eat tons all the time. That's one reason i try not to eat too much soy.

In your situation, i'd eat as much raw as possible (not eat as much as possible, but of what you eat, as much raw as possible ;) ). Drink a lot, maybe fast for some days. After that, slowy build up your food intake again, but always on a convenient level. Never eat when you're not hungry!

Concerning the heart:
56 is a good pulse. Try checking the pulse on your wrist, not the side of your neck, i find that easier.
I've had palpitations a while ago. It also might be due to the overeating, i'm not sure though. The only side effects of creatine i know of are stomach ache and other digestive problems and cramps. Again, drink a lot water. Only drink water when your stomach is empty, not after a meal or while eating. This helps the digestion.

I hope you'll be better soon,
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thanks ya'll. I am eating things like bannanas and apples, and I feel great doing that. I've also got a lil but of fat to lose, so fasting or trimming down wont kill me. I find I get better energy of raw foods.


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Glad to hear you're feeling better. Am not sure about humans, but when animals are ill feed several small meals instead of large ones, and feed every few hours, may be worth a go ?

This is a good site for raw info and recipes http://www.fresh-network.com/

Hope all goes well.


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If you fancy something a bit different, but raw, I've collected some unusual recipes at http://www.veganbodybuilding.org/recipes.htm#rawsection
They are raw, but with a twist (oh I'm getting confused I'm posting parts on here & on VF board aren't I!).
Anyway, you'll read everything eventually :D

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Could the heart problem point to a lack of some vitamin?


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CollegeB wrote:
Could the heart problem point to a lack of some vitamin?


nah i think it might be sodium. i just checked how much sodium was in soy products and soups and stuff and I am consuming wayyyy to much. plus i think with the creatine its causing high blood pressure.


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today so far I had:

apples, bananas, organic raw carrots, raw walnuts, raw pumpkin seeds, package of tofu pups (soy hotdogs) [and had no problems eating them), a nectarine, water,

so far I feel great! my body is really craving simple foods. I am gonna try a diff kind of soy protein powder tonight, and see what happens (i have so many diff kinds to try out).

I bought some puffed millet too and might snack on that later or tomorrow.

I find it easier for me to eat often but in small meals like I used to do. I guess my body is just sick of bulking.

What kinds of things can I to help reduce high blood pressure (if i have high blood pressure)??? Im cycling 20 miles a day.


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I have no advice, but I am glad you are feeling better today, I was/am concerned. Keep us updated on your condish, and I hope you continue to recover


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You might want to check out some of these:
http://heart.healthcentersonline.com/bloodpressure/ (the free heart evaluation is rubbish, it's using BMI [Body Mass Index]to guess, but our weight is off their charts as we've got more muscle mass & less body fat than most, so for athletes the BMI is useless)

http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/dci/Dis ... hatIs.html
is another site you might want to check out (national heart, lung & blood institute)

Lowering blood pressure guide http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/hbp/index.html

These will give you the basics. But, you don't smoke, you exercise, you don't drink, & you eat healthily. The only thing is salt & I doubt you have more than the average guy on the street, but you could be sodium sensitive.
Anyway, have a look at them, cut back on the salt & stay off the creatine. If things don't improve I really would see a doctor, just to be sure.
As a side note you do make an effort to get your EFA's (from a raw source you could have a few tablespoons of 50% flax/50% of any combination of hemp, walnuts, sunflower, hazelnuts, brazil nuts (or infact just about any seed/nut- flax seeds MUST be ground).
Also you are taking a regular B12 capsule (try to get capsules & you can empty them & put them under your tongue or add to any food/drink you like as most absorption takes place through the mouth - under the tongue & the back of the throat (through the lymph nodes that sample food coming in for pathogens).
Just a thought as I know they both play a vital role in mantaining blood & heart health.

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