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Soy/Whey Testosterone study

#1 Postby Zack » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:29 am

Here's an awesome study showing that Soy has little/no effect on total testosterone in males. Best one I've seen to date.

http://www.jissn.com/content/4/1/4
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#2 Postby xveganjoshx » Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:53 am

Thanks so much for posting this Zack! :D
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#3 Postby Zack » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:02 pm

Just remember this doesn't say anything about soy wholefoods, just protein isolate and concentrate. To me it looks like concentrate had a small negative effect on test levels. Isolate doesn't.
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#4 Postby beforewisdom » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:58 am

From what I have seen of the soy hysteria, protein powders would seem to be the worst, so if those do not have adverse effects natural soy foods are less likely too.

I was perusing a forum I usually no longer read. A nutrition major who has been vegan and taking large amounts of soy protein powder daily for two years ( about 170 grams )went to his doctor and insisted on having blood work for all of the boogey man substances people try to scare vegans with.

All of his nutrients were high.

His estrogen levels were low normal for a man his age.

His testosterone levels were high normal for a man his age.

Years ago when such things still worried me I got PMed a similar account from a middle aged weight lifting buff who went and had his hormones measured after years of heavily hitting the soy. Sure enough, everything came back normal.

It isn't the best thing in the world to eat extracts instead of whole foods, nor is it good to not get variety. However, I think the anti-soy stuff is hype.

Soy Beans.....yes, even the straight beans taste great. They are a wealth of nutrition beyond just protein. They are also CHEAP and CHEAP compared to foods offering similar level of individual nutrients. Soy is a real threat to livestock and dairy producers, both of which have loads of money to fund FUD.

I have tempeh, soy beans, or tofu 2-3 times a week.

I am going to enjoy them from now on without any doubt.

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#5 Postby ChaserHUN » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:10 pm

I've red a lot of shit about soy, that makes boys gay, and their penis will be not enough big, and "makes you female", but it's stupid, I eat a lot of soy and I'm not gay, and I don't have any problems :)
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#6 Postby veganpotter » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:17 pm

Speak for yourself...we have forum members here that eat lots of soy and are gay...chances are the soy wasn't working right for those of us that aren't gay...or we just aren't gay yet :wink:

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#7 Postby ChaserHUN » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:52 pm

veganpotter wrote:Speak for yourself...we have forum members here that eat lots of soy and are gay...chances are the soy wasn't working right for those of us that aren't gay...or we just aren't gay yet :wink:

lol there are gays on this forum? :S I don't think it's because of soy...
well I don't eat that many soy, a cup of cocoa with soy milk, I eat the usual meat meals with soy, no meat.., and put soy milk on cornflakes, and I eat a lot of fruit, and vegetables, I don't think so tha Im gonna be gay :D chineese eat a lot of soy and they are not gay :D
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"Is it not obvious? After all, most vegans eat a lot of soy. Consequently, most vegans are, of course, violently gay, just like the billions of Asians who've eaten soy products for millennia and are so gay and feminine and estrogen heavy they can barely stand up. Which explains Hello Kitty. And samurai movies. And the Scion Xb. I mean, obviously."
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#8 Postby Swole~N~Sexified » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:21 pm

Until the day when I can make a living by shaking my titties, I will argue to the death that soy does not affect your test/estrogens levels in a negative way.

That said, if I did think that soy was bad, that article wouldn't convince me otherwise. The study took place over 12 weeks and we're talking about altering the chemical structure of your inner workings here, it would take longer than 12 weeks, a study would have to be conducted over a full year in order to prove once and for all that soy is not bad for your test levels.

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#9 Postby seitan_man » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:36 am

I read somewhere that eating soy leads to transsexualism!

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#10 Postby ChaserHUN » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:56 pm

I eat a lot of soy, and I still like girls, and I don't have any tits xD :lol:
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Re: Soy/Whey Testosterone study

#11 Postby phillipeb » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:48 pm

Soy made me gay. i was all heterosexual and loved the women. as soon as i switched to soy its just men that tickle my fancy.

F U soy! for giving me the gay.

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Re: Soy/Whey Testosterone study

#12 Postby Dr. Pink » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:32 pm

phillipeb wrote:Soy made me gay. i was all heterosexual and loved the women. as soon as i switched to soy its just men that tickle my fancy.

F U soy! for giving me the gay.



Wow. After all the insane amounts of soy I've eaten I should have gone gay a long time ago. I once ate 10-12 packages of tofu in chow mein.

Maybe I am gay. I knew there was a good reason I was such a fan of Boy George. He can tumble for me all night long :wink:
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Re: Soy/Whey Testosterone study

#13 Postby beforewisdom » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:47 pm

Once I started eating soy my taste in clothing improved. I know more words for colors too!

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Re: Soy/Whey Testosterone study

#14 Postby DV » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:50 am

Since I started eating soy, I've noticed that my aggression has increased and I can now curse like a sailor. I've also been listening to a lot of heavy metal at the gym.
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Re: Soy/Whey Testosterone study

#15 Postby beforewisdom » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:41 am

Do you scratch your crotch and belch in public? :)

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