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 Post subject: Food Log w/ pics
PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:42 pm 
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I'll share what I'll eat :)

Vegans since beginning of 2008, I love all kinds of vegan foods, but espescially fruits like dried figs, fresh dates, maybe lychees are amongst my favorites. Of course, I love peanuts and peanut butter, cooked meals like pastas, etc. Avocados and olives.
My nutrition is always evolving.

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 Post subject: losing weight
PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:12 pm 
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What I'm gonna eat to lose weight

I'm 170cm and my weight fluctuate often between 60 and 65kg. During summer under 55kg.

I'm gonna start slowly, by reducing portions for a few days or one week, then a protein fasting for at least two full weeks, then continue with protein shakes but incorporating some more energetic meals, not often but at the right moments, like post-workout.

Drinks: water, stimulating infusions such as green tea, ginkgo, guarana, hawthorn, calming infusions such as camomile, valerian, passionflower, etc.

Supplements (especially during protein-fasting): amino complex powder, multivitamin & mineral complex + more B12, potassium, calcium-magnesium-zinc, chlorophyll, bromelain, Co-Q10 (a powerful antioxydant)

During protein-fasting

Green vegetables and salt for fibers, potassium and iod-sodium.
Alternating soy and hemp proteins, than only soy.

Nutiva organic Hemp shakes + Manitoba Harvest organic hemp protein
Proteins: 21. Carbs: 20 (15g sugars) Fat: 1,5. Calories : 224
Proteins: 24. Carbs: 20 (4g sugars) Fat: 3. Calories: 234

Gourmet Nutrition Soy Isolate Protein 90% , ngm
Proteins: 22. Carbs: 0. Fat: 0. Calories: 100

nb: Usually I sweeten with Stevia, but sometimes nutritionnal facts can differs when I add carob powder and cinnamon, fortified unsweeted soy beverage, vanilla or raspberry essence extract.

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Summer diet to continue losing weight or maintain it will be raw and organic, light and refreshing...

Lots of fresh fruits morning and evening.
Iced green tea and green tea smoothies.
Tofu and other soy products.
Salads and raw vegetables.
Some sunflowerseeds, almonds, other nuts...
Mung beans, Alfalfa sprouts...
Some sandwiches (lentills, soy or plain veggies)
Vegan sushi and Japanese recipes

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:23 pm 
Why do you want 1-6% body fat? 5-6% is fine...4% is OK for the short term but staying at 1-3 is deadly...not a good idea.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:50 am 
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Hey,

I agree with potter on this one, although I understand what you mean by setting goals beyond your expectations. But 1% should not be an expectation, you cannot survive on that low bodyfat. After my comp when I was around that range, I had a doctor check me out and he said my organs came close to shutting down which isn't cool. It's risky.... Anything sub 4% is for show and nothing more, not to maintain for any longer than a few days. It's unhealthy.

Anyways, there is no way in the world that you are 20-25% bf. Someone with bf that high has noticeable fat all over and is very out of shape. You are in shape and kind of lean. I'm no expert but i'd say you are about 11% bf and i'd be highly highly shocked if your number measured anywhere higher than 15% on a scale.

115lb seems like a low weight for you too if you're putting on lbm, muscle weighs more than fat. Unless you're trying to lose bf and lbm and have a thin body, I would suspect you'd weigh more than this in six months, even with a leaner body.

Whatever the case, I look forward to reading your blog

i also like Yerba Mate as a stimulating infusion. You can get it 'unsmoked' and just make a sun tea if you don't want to boil it, which is how I prefer tea...

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:38 am 
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Lean and Green wrote:
Hey,

Anything sub 4% is for show and nothing more, not to maintain for any longer than a few days. It's unhealthy.

(...)

115lb seems like a low weight for you ...

(...)

i also like Yerba Mate as a stimulating infusion. You can get it 'unsmoked' and just make a sun tea if you don't want to boil it, which is how I prefer tea...


Thanks for commenting, VeganPotter and Lean & Green.
I'm not an expert neither. I always thought it was impossible to go under 4%, that the body would always keep a minimal amount of fat no matter what, most bodybuilders competing were at 4-6... until I saw your comp. pics Lean & Green ! saying you were at 1.3%. So I said 1% without thinking. But I didn't know it was dangerous. Of course I won't try that. I don't care about the bf% and I have no way to measure it, I just want to have enough definition on abs and quads, back, etc.

To be at 115 lb is also exagerating I guess. It would be possible only by losing also some lean mass, which I don't want. But 125-130 lb would be more correct. I'm only 5" 8. My brother is about the same height than me and was at 122 lb at one time, with very good muscular definition, Bruce Lee like. But since I have more lean mass, I would weight more for the same bf, about 130lb.

I've heard about sun infusions. I'm gonna try that during summer.

Here's two recipes perhaps you'll like to try:

Morning tonic drink
(I forgot the exact quantities but you can experiment)

Blend about 1 cup of pineapple or pineapple juice with 2 spoons of natural peanut butter and 1 or 2 cups or alfafa sprouts. Serve cold. Tastes good !

Green Tea antioxydant gelatin

2 1/2 cups of green tea
3 1/2 grape juice
2 spoons of Agar Agar vegetal gelatin powder
2 cups of mix berries (raspberries, strawberries, blackberries, etc...), drop the whole fruits in the drink

Pour hot tea on gelatin and mix, add other ingredients, put in the fridge in hermetic recipient.

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March 5,6,7

Ate some slices of my birthday cake. I finished my quinoa yesterday, with carrots, olive oil. Later I finished also my tofu, with tamari sauce, zuchinis. Ate some apples and pink grapefruits.
Some protein shakes.


8th of march

Except for my protein powder stuff, my fridge is almost empty, still have some carrots… It's gonna be easy to cut on food. Still have some oatmeal, raisins, sunflower seeds, doubt I touch them because I'm losing apetite as I'm eating less and less.

I lost info for next days, but it was very low calories, mostly hemp protein shakes and supplements.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:21 pm 
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Thursday 13th of March
10am: soy shake. cal:100
12:30pm: soy shake. cal:100
4 pm: high protein home-made vinaigrette with lots of brocoli and celeri, less than 200 cals
8pm: soy shake, 100

total: about 500 calories and 80 grams of proteins.


Not eating a lot, complete loss of apetite, I should drink protein shakes more frequently so it could increase my metabolism, burning fat even faster. Protein-fasting is on since almost a week now. Lost about 5kg (last time I checked I was at 60kg or 135 lb. looking good, even though I'm a little sceptic, my belly didn't seem to have changed a lot since beginning of diet. I hope I didn't lose any lean mass.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:06 pm 
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I'm Your Man wrote:
March 5,6,7

Ate some slices of my birthday cake


Happy belated birthday! What kind of vegan cake was it and did someone make it for you or did you go to some cool vegan cafe?? :blob2: :blob3: :blob4: :blob5: :blob2: :blob: :blob3: :blob4: :blob5:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:10 pm 
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Thanx, it was 5th of march, 27 y.o, getting old ! My mother made a carrot cake without eggs and with canola oil, spelt flour. I don't think there's any vegan café around here, I should open one !

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March 14

10 am: hemp shake, 220 cals
12:30pm: high protein vinaigrette with broccoli and celery. 180
4:30pm: soy shake with soymilk, raspberry extract and stevia, was so good!! 190 cal
10pm: same soy shake than before. 190

total: less than 800 calories, around 90 grams of proteins



My high-protein vinaigrette recipe

I tried this the other day, putting stuff that I found in my fridge, it’s so good! I adjust quantities until desired consistency


1-2 tablespoons of Soymilk powder
1-2 tablespoons of soy protein isolate
a pinch of yellow mustard powder, Herbamare (aromatic seasalt), garlic, italian fine herbs (basilic, oregano, thym…), or whatever you have…
a few drops of Tamari sauce
1 tablespoon of Dijon mustard

In 1-2 tablespoon of water of soy beverage, mix the mustard powder, soymilk powder and soy isolate. Add rest of ingredients and mix with a spoon.

I think I'm gonna make some changes because often I feel weak. Either I have to make an effort to drink 6 shakes per day, or either I begin to eat some meals like adding fruits, oatmeal, etc...

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:06 pm 
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I was feeling so weak this morning, thought maybe a little change from the protein shakes would help, after a week at almost zero carbs per day. Ate a big bowl of oatmeal with raisins. Was so good. I saw the sugar circulate in all veins. But I was even more tired!

Later I ate some greens with salt and mustard. Like usually, all I needed was potassium and salt. I felt great! trained for 30 minutes and than drinked a soy shake.

total: less than 700 calories, about 70 grams or proteins

losing some weight ! starting to see my upper abs, left bicep vein always visible.

note: I'll be writing here only once a week later on, with short description of the food and caloric amount for each day, takes too much time writing everyday.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:53 pm 
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So I made some drastic changes. I've been doing a protein-fast for about 7 days and was planning to continue it longer, but I've stopped, for many reasons. It's good to lose wight fast (lost about 14lb/6 kg in 7 days) - even perhaps too fast (I'm sure I lost some lean mass too) but after the first week the body is used to this very low calorie intake (most days I was as low as 400-600 cals/day). Sometimes I felt I had plenty of energy (but that was nothing compared to when I eat enought), most of days I was pretty weak.

It was on low calorie/low metabolism... So during last week I completly changed my tactic. Now I started to eat more, every 2-3 hours, it increases my metabolism, I can move more. Always full of energy. Ate a bit too much (gained 3kg from the 6kg I lost last week) but I don't care. There's like 2 meters of snow outside (all the rain that USA had, it then came in snow here!), summer is not for now, and it's not like if I had 300lb of fat to lose. Especially when I'll be cycling this summer, just a few weeks on tofu, fruits and green tea and I'll be skinny.
As you can see (above) my weight can fluctuate quite fast in quite a short period of time. It will depend if I control my food intake, don't make excess, keep moving and stay active.

New 6 weeks program to boost my metabolism found that in a bodybuilding magazine...
I start this program this week but slowly, not strict about it. 1st of May though I'll be starting to lose weight more seriously.

week

1 - reduce carb intake for 4 days (short protein-fast)
- zero carbs for last meal each evening of the week
2 - add more cardio sessions (30-60 minutes) at least 3/week
- increase protein intake, decrease carb intake
3 - reduce carb intake for 4 days (short protein-fast)
- zero carbs for last meal each evening of the week
4 - at least 2 cardio sessions 30-60 minutes
- add a cardio session on empty stomach one morning or after a weightlifting session.
5 - cheat : 1 day/week, eat more than what your body got used to
- add 50% more series at training
6 - take a break for 3 full days then repeat program if necessary

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:50 pm 
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week of March 17-23

my weight as of 20th of March : 135 lb (60.5 kg)

So last week I didn't have a lot of energy during that 7 days protein-fast with 400-600 calories/day ! Won't do that again, except for shorter periods of time (3-4 days and adding some fruits).

This week I ate a lot. Quite a lot compared to last week! But didn't take much bodyweight because it still wasn't enough, but it gave me an energy boost and increased my metabolism.

My normal energy needs:
2000 calories days of rest
2500 calories days of workout

lowest day : 840 calories, 77 gr proteins
highest day: 2800 calories, 90 gr proteins
average for 5 other days : 1000-1100 calories, 70 gr proteins

Menu for March 17-23

-500 gr of peanut butter in 2 days. Sometimes with nothing else, sometimes on bananas, or on Ezekiel bread with bananas.

(Speaking of bananas, I ate about 10 this week. I wanted them, needed them, craved for them because for about 1 year I gave up all that is supposed to be bad for me according to the Blood Type Diet. Now I still follow some rules like replacing wheat by other cereals. But when I want some fruits or greens, I'll try them and see if it has any side effects on me, like tomatoes, cuz I have some serious doubts about the veracity of this theory now).

-Salads with lettuce, spinach, kale, olive oil or sliced avocados, and tomatoes (3 tomatoes this week, haven't notice it negatively affects me in any way).

-Many sandwiches (ezekiel bread, tomatoes, spinach, avocados, 1 pkg of soy cheese, 1 pkg of soy meatless meat, Veganaise !)

You all probably know already since a long time but I have to tell it because I just discovered it... Veganaise is sooo goood! before that I only tried the Soyanaise, not super good... but the Veganaise, it's like a thousand times better than regular mayo with eggs. Veganaise tastes like the best of mayo that would have been mixed with cream cheese.

-Some raw Chia alone or on oatmeal with raisins and sliced bananas, almost every morning, sometimes adding soymilk.

-Pears (4), pink grapefruits (5)

-tofu (350 gr), with zuchinis, broccolis, tamari

-energy bars (2)

-soy and hemp protein shakes (average 1 shake/day or less)

-quinoa, tofu, broccoli

-soy chocolate pudding (4)

-grean tea, water

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I must add: my skin is so soft (like baby's skin) these days from all the good fats I've been eating ; soy, peanuts and almonds, but especially avocado and olive oil ! I definetly must add some flax seeds to my diet and my skin will be so soft I'll always want to touch it!

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March 24-30

This week I had :

-grapefruit with sunflower seeds
-oatmeal with cranberries
-Chia with mashed apples, cinnamon
-fresh fruits : bananas, apples, plums, pears
-dried fruits (raisons, prunes)
-some nuts (peanuts, almonds, walnuts)

-taboulé : millet, oat bran, cucumbers, tomatoes, olive oil, Nayonaise, tofu, fine herbs...
-sandwiches: spelt bread, alfalfa sprouts, Veganaise, tomatoes
-crackers, chips, cookies
-greens : spinach, cabbage, parsnips, carrots, sugarsnaps
-soy smoothies
-hemp protein shakes
-sprouted mung beans, white beans
-cream style corn w/mashed potatoes and scrambled tofu, tomatoes
-spinach pastas with red sauce and black beans


calculated only the first day : 1660 calories and 50 grams of proteins.
Then stopped calculating because I was eating too much. I guess I was eating more than what I burn on some days, I guess I gained some pounds.

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