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Vegan Joe's Consumption

#1 Postby Vegan Joe » Sun May 11, 2008 11:28 pm

This will be an attempt show the type of diet that I normally consume. Or at least post the days I feel good about what I have eaten.
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5-11-08
Protein shake =rice, milk, gemma, nestles choc. powder, creatine
1 veagan ginger cookie left over from the luch we had with some local vegan on Sat.
2 soy yogurts
mixes fruit= some mellons, 1.5 mangos
8 Nature Valley granola bars
piece of french wheat bread with soy butter
some articoke leaves and half a heart, with some brown rice.
some potatoe tofu curry thingy my daughter brought home in a doggy bag.
couple slices of water melon. and I'm going to make a protein rice milk shake with blue berries a banana, nestles choc. powder, strawberries, some mint extract, and not to lie a touch of sugar, or two. Before I do the dishes.
PS this is not the exact order only the best of my recollection.
Last edited by Vegan Joe on Thu May 15, 2008 10:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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#2 Postby DV » Mon May 12, 2008 1:14 am

Well, you posted so I'll comment.

Where are the 9 servings of vegetables?!? Omega 3 fatty acids? Too much fruit and processed foods and not enough veggies, IMHO!

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#3 Postby Vegan Joe » Mon May 12, 2008 11:09 pm

DV wrote:Well, you posted so I'll comment.

Where are the 9 servings of vegetables?!? Omega 3 fatty acids? Too much fruit and processed foods and not enough veggies, IMHO!

Yes Nurse DV. Just kidding. Acually was excited that you even give me any of your time. LOL
I do appreciate you comments.
Let see first excuse it was Sunday anything (food) goes.
I have always thought that the 9 veggies was an insane goal.
So let me post today and see what you think. If you care to, that is.

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#4 Postby Vegan Joe » Mon May 12, 2008 11:20 pm

5-12-08
Oatmeal, sugar and soy butter (forgot the cinnamin)
Protein drink with almond milk, Gemma, creatine and choc. powder.
aprox. 1 cup of halved walnuts
I can rinsed chick peas, (15.5oz)
1 apple
1 large salad = carrot, onion, tomato, cucumber, garlic, celery, red pepper, mixed with store bought container of mixed baby greens,
Thousand Island dressing = veganaze, ketsup, relish, salt, pepper, dried thyme, sweet basil, and tumeric, dash of sugar.
Yam with butter and sour cream (Tofutti)
Two carrot muffins daughter made with banana binding, protein drink gemma and choc. powder.
slice of water melon.
will probaly make a frozen berry smoothy when I get out of the shower.
Last edited by Vegan Joe on Thu May 15, 2008 10:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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#5 Postby Zack » Mon May 12, 2008 11:56 pm

That's much better! Get some omega 3's and it's looking great!
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#6 Postby DV » Tue May 13, 2008 3:01 am

Well, since you asked:

The "butter" is a processed food and has way too much omega 6 fatty acids and saturated fatty acids - same for the sour cream. You can train your taste buds to not need butter and sour cream (if my hubby could do it, anyone can).

The dressing is okay if it's the veganaise made with canola oil or a high-oleic oil - otherwise, too many omega 6 fatty acids. But too much processed fat overall!

Too many nuts! One or two (max) ounces are all you should be getting, especially with your high refined oil intake.

Salad greens are rarely nutritionally dense. Go for kale, collards, mustard greens, dandelion greens, chard when possible. And no need for dressing!

Overall, you could get more whole food choices for amino acids and other nutrients if you decrease your oil intake.

Not too bad but there's room for improvement.

Additionally, if you are not taking supplements, there is a lack of calcium, vitamin K, omega 3 fatty acids, vitamin D (unless you get sunshine where you live), vit B12, selenium, etc, etc.

Hey, you said I could comment.

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#7 Postby beforewisdom » Tue May 13, 2008 6:17 am

DV wrote:Too many nuts! One or two (max) ounces are all you should be getting, especially with your high refined oil intake..


Yep. For Omega3 you only need 5 English walnuts a day. You don't even need that if you take 1 - 2 tablespoons of ground flax, which are much lower in calories.

The health authorities who recommend eating nuts for health say all you need per day are enough nuts to cover the inner palm of your hand.

Lettuce is very nutritionally dense, if you look at the nutrition you get per calorie. The trouble is lettuce is low calorie you have to eat an entire head of it to get the nutrition you would get in the cabbage family vegetables DV recommended.

I'm with DV about losing some of the oil.

Eating a lot of oil is like eating a lot of sugar. You are eating something that isn't a whole food, but an extract that is almost pure calories with almost none of the nutrition of the food it came from.

Oil is calorie dense. Two tablespoons of oil have about 200 calories. 200 extra calories a day is enough to put ( or keep ) on 20 lbs a year. Instead of two spoons of oil here is a sample of other things you can eat for a cost of 200 calories:

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-does-200-c ... k-like.htm

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#8 Postby Vegan Joe » Wed May 14, 2008 12:46 am

DV wrote:Well, since you asked:

The "butter" is a processed food and has way too much omega 6 fatty acids and saturated fatty acids - same for the sour cream. You can train your taste buds to not need butter and sour cream (if my hubby could do it, anyone can).

The dressing is okay if it's the veganaise made with canola oil or a high-oleic oil - otherwise, too many omega 6 fatty acids. But too much processed fat overall!

Too many nuts! One or two (max) ounces are all you should be getting, especially with your high refined oil intake.

Salad greens are rarely nutritionally dense. Go for kale, collards, mustard greens, dandelion greens, chard when possible. And no need for dressing!

Overall, you could get more whole food choices for amino acids and other nutrients if you decrease your oil intake.

Not too bad but there's room for improvement.

Additionally, if you are not taking supplements, there is a lack of calcium, vitamin K, omega 3 fatty acids, vitamin D (unless you get sunshine where you live), vit B12, selenium, etc, etc.

Hey, you said I could comment.

Actually I'm flattered that you would even bother.

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#9 Postby Vegan Joe » Wed May 14, 2008 12:52 am

Vitamin intake
4 to 5 days a week
1 Veglife multible vit.
800 I.U. Vit. E
800 mcg Folic acid
100mg B6
Alternate every Vitamin day between V-PURE Omega 3 EPA & DHA, and DEVA Omega 3 DHA
3+ time a week Veglife B12 lozenge 1000mcg
As a Letter Carrier (USPS) I get more Vit. D then I need.
Last edited by Vegan Joe on Wed May 14, 2008 1:08 am, edited 1 time in total.

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#10 Postby Vegan Joe » Wed May 14, 2008 1:04 am

4-12-08
Bob's Re Mill 10 Grain hot cereal Ingre.(wheat, corn, rye, triticale, oats, soy, millet, barley, oat bran, flaxseed), sugar, soy butter, and cinnamon
Protein drink with ricemilk, Gemma, creatine and choc. powder.
aprox. 1/2 cup almonds no salt
1 lemon
I can rinsed kidney beans, (15.5oz)
1 apple
2 granola bars.
2 liters water
1 salad = onion, tomato, garlic, mixed with store bought container of mixed baby greens contents=(7 kinds of lettuce, chard, mizuna, arugula, frisee, ridicchio)
Thousand Island dressing = veganaze, ketsup, relish, salt, pepper, dried thyme, sweet basil.
large bowl of frozen mixed vegetables (heated), olive oil, salt pepper.
protein drink gemma and choc. powder, rice milk.
5 slices of watermelon.
mixed berry protein powder smoothy.
Last edited by Vegan Joe on Fri May 16, 2008 11:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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#11 Postby Vegan Joe » Thu May 15, 2008 10:44 pm

5-14-08
2 cuup cooked Teff seed, sugar, soy butter.and cinnamon
Protein drink with ricemilk, Gemma, creatine and choc. powder.
aprox. 1/2 almons no salt
I/2 can refried beans, (15.5oz)
1 apple .
2 liters water
Tofurky Pepper slices on bread with Veganaze
small bowl of frozen mixed vegetables (heated), olive oil, salt pepper.
protein drink gemma and choc. powder, rice milk.
1/2 mango
butt end of watermelon.
4 cans soda

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#12 Postby Vegan Joe » Thu May 15, 2008 10:51 pm

5-15-08
Bob's Redmill ORGANIC PUMPERNICKEL DARK RYE MEAL
( http://www.bobsredmill.com/catalog/inde ... uct_ID=284 )
sugar, soy butter,and cinnamon
Protein drink with ricemilk, Gemma, creatine and choc. powder.
aprox. 1/2 peanuts no salt
1 lemon
I/2 can rinsed black eyed pea, (15.5oz)
2 granola bars.
4 liters water
1 salad = Broccolli, cauliflower, red pepper, onion, garlic, tomatoes, Veganase and apple cider vinigar dressing.
1 BBQ corn on the cob with soy butter
left over mongolian beef strips (3)
4 cans of soda (don't drink alot of soda but these last couple of hot days and all the water i needed something sweet to drink.)
8:52 pm and I'm looking fo a snack
2 Granola bars
handful Trader Joe's semi-sweet choc. chips
Almond milh and Gemma.
Last edited by Vegan Joe on Fri May 16, 2008 11:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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#13 Postby Vegan Joe » Fri May 16, 2008 7:39 pm

5-16-08
1 cup quinoa with sugar, soy butter.
Protein drink with almond milk, Gemma, creatine.
1 apple
1 can rinsed cannelli beans, (15.5oz)
hand full of peanuts unsalted
1 lemon
2 granola bars.
4 liters water
bowl frozen mixed vegetables
2 cans of soda
2 hand fulls of choc. baking chips
2 6oz soy yogurts
TOO HOT TO COOK
1/2 mango
Protein drink with Choc. soymilk, Gemma.
Toffutti cream cheese and jelly on toast

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#14 Postby Vegan Joe » Sun May 18, 2008 12:13 am

5-17-08
1 cup amaranth seed (hot) with sugar, soy butter.
Protein drink with choc.soy, Gemma, creatine.
almonds and dates
eggplant and bean curds over rice
4 liters water
2 granola bars
satien mongolian style with veggies
protein drink with rice milk, Gemma.
popcorn, large soda and a movie (Ironman)
4 granola bars.

Happiness is a personal choice!
I am the sole source of all my sadness and joy.


"The logic of worldly success rests on a
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