Daywalker Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 Thanks Buzz Here's my routine for the next 6 weeks. Intention is to get used to a higher volume and frequency again. To start a HST routine without being used to this kind of training can be too much for the joints. Day 1 Sets / Exercise 2 - Deadlift and/or SLDL2 - Flat bench press2 - Chin ups (supinated grip)2 - Dips2 - Upright barbell row2 - Squats, easy day (light weight, high reps)1 - Calves, standing machine1 - Crunches Free day Day 2 2 - Power cleans + push press2 - Pull ups (pronated grip)2 - Frontsquats2 - Overheadsquats2 - Shrugs (barbell)2 - Dips1 - Calves, seated machine2 - Leg raises Free day Day 3 (2 - Leg curls)2 - Squats, heavy day(2 - Leg curls)2 - Close grip bench press2 - Curls (some kind, barbell, dumbell, preacher...)2 - Barbell or dumbell shoulder press2 - Barbell row, supinated grip1 - Calves, leg press2 - Cable crunches Free day Free day As you see, it's the whole body each time, but with different exercises.Calves have only one set because the intensity on this muscle group is MUCH higher.I want to focus on strength gains in the main movements, as always, with a special emphasis on shoulders / pressing movements. That's why i incorporated power cleans, push presses, military presses, overhead squats in the routine. I still have to get my bodyweight over my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanders77 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Hamstrings: Cannot explain this exercise... K-Oz calls it "kneecrusher", i prefer "Mohammeds" Anyway, very hard one +LS. @Daywalker: I thought about your "kneecrusher". Maybe it looks like this exercise which is done for injury prevention in norway and the US primarily:http://www.ostrc.no/media/ostrc/%7B4AFB194F-C510-4389-A250-38A3EC9EC7C1%7D.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 Yes, Flanders, that's it! Only that we hook the feet under an incline bench and then lower the body down to the floor. I'm not yet strong enough to lift myself up only with the hamstrings, but i need only a little push with the arms Maybe know you know why we call it Mohammeds And it's not really that hard on the knees as it looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanders77 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 The guys in Norway we work with call the exercise "Nordic Hamstring". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted March 26, 2006 Author Share Posted March 26, 2006 So, i'm done with this routine. I added a 7th week at the end. The beginning was good, but i guess at the end i had too high intensity... i increased the weights too fast and did too heavy sets, thus had not enough regeneration. Here are my weights in the first and the last week: Deadlift: From 160kg x 1, 1 to 160kg x3, 3 Power cleans: From 70kg x 1 to 85kg x1, 80kg x 5Push press: from 65kg x 1 to 75kg x 1 Frontsquats: from 60kg x 10 to 80kg x 10Overheadsquats: from 40kg x 10 to 50kg x 12 Squats: from 130kg x 5, 5 to 150kg x 6, 6 Close grip bench press: from 60kg x 10, 10 to 70kg x 10, 8 I especially improved in squats and cleans, the pressing movements didn't benefit at all from this program.I'm still very NOT satisfied with my current strength. Have to get stronger somehow! Now i'll take a few days off and then design a new routine, probably a 2 split 2 times per week. Peace,Daywalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Good improvements on some stuff Daywalker. How is your bodyweight these days? Much change? Good luck with the coming routine, Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted April 1, 2006 Author Share Posted April 1, 2006 Thanks for the feedback mate My bodyweight didn't budge (still 82.5kg)Well, at least i managed not to LOSE weight! My next routine is like this: Monday:Bench pressChin upsDumbell pressBarbell rowCalves in leg press Tuesday:DeadliftFront squatsUpright rowBarbell curlsKickbacksAbs Thursday:Dumbell incline bench pressPull upsDipsDumbell row (probably not for long - the dumbells here are not heavy enough but i love the execise!)Calves in standing calves machine Friday:CleansSquatsLeg curlsClose grip benchDumbell curls on incline benchCrunches I think this will work for some time. I'll probably change it in 4-6 weeks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted April 23, 2006 Author Share Posted April 23, 2006 Did the above for three weeks. Felt great, but now i need to work on my strength for the Edinburgh meeting - i will do a modified HST routine for the next three weeks, with only these exercises: - Cleans- Squats- Bench press- Deadlift- Military press- Pullups 3-4 sessions per week, with steadily increasing weights and decreasing reps. Many of my beloved exercises didn't make it into this program But i just have to get a bit of my strength back before i make myself ridiculous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted June 24, 2006 Author Share Posted June 24, 2006 The routine mentioned above didn't really work very well. I did neither gain nor lose strength. Don't remember that well, it's some time ago, and i don't have my log at hand... Well, for the past 4 weeks i did a more traditional volume split. The intention was to gain mass and strength (as always), with the focus on mass. Training each bodypart only once per week should ensure that the muscles and esp. joints have a break to recover from the HST like training, while gaining weight should be easier because i burn less calories. Of course, it's suboptimal for building strength and staying lean. I also worked on my squatting technique. I was content before the Edinburgh strength gathering, but now i want to go deeper down, so i primarily worked on that instead of increasing the weights. WORKOUT: Monday: Pull.Back exercises, 4 exercises, 3-5 sets each, rep range of 4-12. One biceps exercise, 2 sets. Wednesday: Push.4 exercises out of the following: Dumbell bench press, close grip bench press, dips, military press, dumbell press seated, bench press. Triceps isolation work with dumbell, 1-2 sets. Friday: Lift.Deadlift, squats, front squats, straight leg deadlift in varying order and number of sets. Calves and abs each workout, though i often skipped abs when i was in a hurry GOALS:1. Increase bodyweight.2. Gain strength.3. Increase squat depth.4. Rest joints.5. Get used to high volume training again. RESULTS:1. Gained ~2 pounds Not much, but okay for a hardgainer like me. I have always difficulties gaining at all, and the past months i've been working overtime. I guess the gains were mostly fat, though 2. Hm, a little. The best increases were on the lifting day, DL and squat improved. Push and pull stayed the same, maybe a small increase.3. That worked astoundingly well After only one session my squat was much stronger. 4. Yes, that worked, too 5. Yup So, only thing that didn't work so well was the overall strength and weight gain. But i already have a new plan Being rested without having lost strength, i now will pursue a HST style routine again. This burns much more calories, but now i have 2 pounds of energy storage And it's effective in muscle building. So, my new routine will include lifting 4-5 days a week, at least 4 days per week whole body workout. Compound moves as always. Only difference to classic HST will be that i will skip the deconditioning and cut the program down to 5 weeks - i have no time before i come to the US Maybe i'll design two different schedules to alternate, so that i can fit more exercises in... hm... I'll be back to report in a month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensless Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 How many times a day do you eat? I was a hard gainer for most of my life and found that if I go against the usual advice of eating several small meals and just eat 2 or 3 very large meals I had a much easier time gaining mass. Perhaps this would work for you as well. Just a thought. Regards, Sensless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanders77 Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I talked about this eating pattern (2-3 big meals a day) to daywalker on our meeting in Bonn. Stephen Arlin promotes eating this way in "Raw Power". I think it works very good for gaining mass and therefor power but for a bodybuilder it seems to stimulate the accretion of fat deposits (take a look at Arlin and you know what I mean ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensless Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I talked about this eating pattern (2-3 big meals a day) to daywalker on our meeting in Bonn. Stephen Arlin promotes eating this way in "Raw Power". I think it works very good for gaining mass and therefor power but for a bodybuilder it seems to stimulate the accretion of fat deposits (take a look at Arlin and you know what I mean ). Yes it can do that, but if a person is in a bulking phase some fat gain is an acceptable "loss". Some people like to remain extremely lean while trying to add mass and that is a difficult path to take. I used to do that and I'd have a hard time gaining 5 or 6 pounds in a year. Now I can slap 25lbs on in 6 months with about 15lb of it being muscle. I can drop the excess blubber I gained while keeping the muscle by going back to several meals and doing some minimal cardio/aerobic work. It is much easier than the old methods I had tried in the past. Regards, sensless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanders77 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I agree to you that this method can work very well. And especially Daywalker should give it a try because he really seems to be a hardgainer at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted July 6, 2006 Author Share Posted July 6, 2006 How many times a day do you eat? I was a hard gainer for most of my life and found that if I go against the usual advice of eating several small meals and just eat 2 or 3 very large meals I had a much easier time gaining mass. Perhaps this would work for you as well.Thanks Sensless for your thoughts I try to eat as often as possible. I think it's the healthier way. I agree that eating less often results in weight gain, but i can see no reason why it should result in muscle gain. Moreover, i think smaller meals are much healthier. This is my new routine, started monday 10 days ago: 1. Barbell press (strict)2. Squat3. Pullups4. Dips5. Barbell row6. Close grip bench press7. Deadlift8. Calves on the leg press I did this routine 9 times in the past 11 days, and yesterday i did a different whole body workout instead, so only last saturday i didn't lift at all.I started with moderate/easy weights and slowly increased weights and/or reps. The idea is to get used to a movement and weight and steadily progress. Of course, you have to stay away from failure. I noticed i adapt better at exercises that felt easy than on those where i did heavy sets. It works pretty well so far, but i'm impatient and want to get to decent weights before i fly to the US in 3 weeks Summary so far: 1. Barbell press: My weakest muscles are my shoulders in pressing movements. I'm searching for a way to get stronger in this. I started with 40kg for 3x5 reps, which is easy even for me The next day, 3x6, then 3x7. Then 42.5kg 3x5, next day 3x6, and so on. Today i did 47.5 3x5 and it was very easy, easier than the 42.5 back then! It seems it's working. Well, i won't be able to tell until i'm in the 52.5kg region, because i was able to do that weight for 3x5 before i started this routine 2. SquatStarted with 100kg 2x10. Did this 3 days in a row and increased to 105. At reaching 110kg, i dropped reps to 2x8, and added a third set of 2 / 4 reps. Today i did 115kg 2x8. Sounds light, and it is, but try squatting everyday for a few weeks Plus i changed my form, i go down deeper now and have a narrower stance than before. 3. PullupsStarted with no weight in the first week, with 10+8 reps. Today i did 8,7,7 reps with 10kh attached to me. Still light. 4. DipsStarted with 2x20 reps, today i did 12, 10 reps with 20kg attached. Still light. 5. Barbell rowStarted with 60kg 2x15. Was out of breath the first day but the weight was light. Today i increased from 70 to 75kg and did 15, 12 reps. Esay 6. Close grip bench pressStarted wit 50kg for 12, 12 reps. Today i did 65kg for 10, 8 reps. Starting to get heavy. 7. DeadliftStarted with 120kg for 2x8 reps, today i did 135kg for 2x8. I hate deadlift with more than 2 reps It's still light though. 8. Calves on the leg pressIn this exercise i do sets to failure and use intensity techniques, like partial reps, loaded stretching, rest-pause sets. I think calves need that Plus i never get muscle soreness the day after, so it can't be much too much Okay, that was the short round up so far. My goals are 55kg 3x5 in the press, 135kg 2x8 in the squat, 25kg 2x8 pullups, 35kg 2x8 dips, 95kg 2x8 rows, 75kg 2x6 cgbp, 155kg 2x5 deadlift, while still being far from failure and able to do this everyday (I know i can do much more in a single set to failure). Oh, and i want to (i mean i will) reach this in 18 days Peace,Daywalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Good to see an update in your log Looks like it's going pretty well. Keep up the training and the eating man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanders77 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Sounds good!I will have a look at your progress next week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorilla Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Hey Daywalker. Good luck with this programme! Howdy Flanders! I hope that everything's going well, that you're in the zone, your rhythm : ) On the subject of how many meals to eat per day, I'm with Daywalker: I find it best to distribute the calories I take in throughout the day. But if your daily rhythm/routine only allows for three main eating times then that's cool. I'm just trying to eat as much as possible. It's all about eating training! I guess if you gradually increase the amount of calories you take in in one sitting, your body will adapt. So far today I've had 6 meals, and I'm now munching my way through a big bag of delicious Studentenfutter (500g). (There's a really good "health food store" round the corner: Paris is better than I thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbwii Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Great stuff Daywalker!!!!! YOU ARE A SUPERMAN!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted July 30, 2006 Author Share Posted July 30, 2006 I'm in El Paso! Approaching the VBB vacation next week... Doing fun lifting the past days Friday i was still suffering from jetlag, but i tried to lift a little anyway (it"s always good to have an excuse ready ). Don't remember exact numbers, but it was like:Cleans (and a push press) a single with approx. 190lbs.Front squats, 2 sets with 12 reps, 135 and 155lbs.SLDLs, 2 sets with 275.Barbell rows, 2 sets, 12x185 and 10x205lbs.Dumbell incline bench.Disco curls on incline bench.Calves and abs. Today:Squat: after warm-up, a single with 300lbs; then 320, but not quite deep enough, three reps therefore Bench: didn't bench for two months, and felt it today. A few singles building up to 235lbs Deadlift: A single with 365lbs, then 8x315.Some lat pulls, hardcore-disco dumbell curls, calves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveliberate Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 So what do ya think of the desert? Any plans for a sidetrip into Juarez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted September 14, 2006 Author Share Posted September 14, 2006 In the past 6 weeks i've been travelling and so didn't follow any program I trained between 2 and 4 times per week, and whole body workouts every time. I practiced my power cleans a bit and did a PB of 200lbs. Still quite weak, but getting better. Thanks to wannalift for showing me the knack of doing hang cleans, i will continue to practice on that, i'm sure it'll help my power cleans, too I also worked on the depth of my squat. I use less weight and do full ROM now, feels much better Thanks to the Edinburgh crew for that To keep my body from forgetting the heavy weights i do rack lockouts or quarter squats with a half-decent load now and then. I mainly like the psychological benefits Soon i'll start a new HST cycle. I just have to figure out when to do the 10-14 days deconditioning before The biggest problem i have with HST, is that you're limited in the number of exercises The exercises for the cycle will include:SquatsBench pressBarbell row, overhand gripChin-ups (underhand grip)Barbell pressDeadliftCalf raisesCrunches I'm contemplating on these exercises, maybe some with only one workset instead of two, to keep the total volume under control: Close grip benchIncline bench curlsUpright rowsDips Definitely no power cleans and front squats loveliberate:We were in Juarez this sunday. I got two new pair of glasses quite cheap and a sunburn for free! Check some pics here: http://www.veganfitness.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveliberate Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Good to hear that ya'll made it down to Juarez! I've always enjoyed my time down there... How about you two - where did you go and what did you do? Any general impressions of the place and people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted September 14, 2006 Author Share Posted September 14, 2006 We only went there to get my new glasses We also walked around for ~3hours and had a drink in a Mexican bar.I thought it's a very touristy place, with lots of opticians, dentists and pharmacies Soon i'll start a new HST cycle. I just have to figure out when to do the 10-14 days deconditioning before I have found out that i started the deconditioning on tuesday I won't train for the next two weeks, no weights i mean, and start on monday 25th with the cycle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 You should only eat icecream and deserts from k-oz for the next two weeks...surely that will do the trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted September 16, 2006 Author Share Posted September 16, 2006 You should only eat icecream and deserts from k-oz for the next two weeks...surely that will do the trickWhat trick? I have figured out my training weights. They're pathetic, especially for the bench... Anyways, a princess gotta do what a princess gotta do! Weights (15/10/5RM in kg): Squat: 100/112.5/125Bench: 77.5/85/95Barbell row (overhand): 80/92.5/105Barbell press: 40/47.5/55Chin-ups: 0/15/35Deadlift: 125/140/155CGBP: 60/70/82.5Incline bench dumbell curls: 14/18/22Dips: 17.5/27.5/37.5 I'll continue my SD and only do nunchakus and swimming for the next week. On monday, 25th, i'll start my cycle with 60% Looking forward to that already Would love to do some cleans today... I'll be on vacation for a week and probably not able to post. See you all next week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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