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 Post subject: Re: Is there a vegan version of N.O. Xplode?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:38 am 
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Wait.The flavors are milk derived as someone already said.God dammit.


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 Post subject: Re: Is there a vegan version of N.O. Xplode?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:03 am 
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Good news again.The milk in the flavoring might not even exist.It's just there because they process it on the same machinery as milk products and list it in the ingredients so they don't have to list it anywhere else on the product.A person at veggieboards emailed them and they told him the N.O Xplode and the cellmas are vegan.Amazing.


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 Post subject: Re: Is there a vegan version of N.O. Xplode?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:55 am 
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Cold Fission wrote:
Pre-workout garlic?No way.

I'll e-mail some of these companies that make these preworkout powders and see if any are vegan.I think if we all e-mail BSN and tell them to change the stearic acid to a vegan kind and stop using aspartame aka genetically modified e-coli then maybe they will change it.Can't see why not.

Well don't laugh at me so quickly!! According to studies nitric oxide just doesn't work:
http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/nitric-oxide-its-role-your-body-and-truth-behind-its-performance-enhancing-properties-40886

However, Nitrate eaten in fruit and vegetables is converted to NO by the body and works brilliantly!:
http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/sports-nutrition-is-dietary-nitrate-the-key-to-enhanced-endurance-performance-41930
You should read the articles all the way through..they are very interesting. There are links to the research at the bottom of the pages, they seem pretty sound and unbiased :)
So for our pre-workout shakes, maybe we should all be juicing beets and spinach..maybe adding in some orange juice or raisins for sweetness and a tonne of nitrate XD
And for our evening salad, one of my favourites: rocket with toasted walnuts, raisins, balsamic and agave.
From everything I've read, I think looking to increase your nitrate consumption from natural foods would be FAR more effective than taking NO supplements, whose positive effects, according to the studies, are all psychologically based as all the trials have done is to prove that if anything, NO may actually be DETRIMENTAL to your performance.
These are the only type of studies worth looking at, as the others are sponsored by companies who manufacture NO.
If NO works, it's just because you've read the hype and want to believe it..don't underestimate the power of belief!! But when yu see how these scientists analyised the levels of various components in the blood of athletes taking NO, you can't ignore the scientific facts.
In my opinion, the ONLY natural products which have been proven scientifically to work, are creatine and bulgarian tribulis. ZMA works too but only if you are deficient in zinc, magnesium or vitamin B (which is very possible for a vegan who sweats a lot), but once your levels are restored to normal it loses its effect.
If I were you I would go with the bulgarian tribulis as I've seen some astonishing results, guys who REALLY look like they take steroids. There is some impressive independant research out there backing it up too so you should check it out. Its just a shame it doesn't work for women. In men it increases testosterone levels..and a LOT. In women it increases oestrogen and lowers testosterone :cry:
I bought some for my friend on the net and I reckon the stuff they sell at myprotein.co.uk es by far the best value I've seen anywhere. I'll pass you the link if you are interested. They also have some cheap brown rice protein which I love XD
I hope I haven't come over as cocky or anything..its just I was so blown away by the results I've seen on 2 male friends of mine who were taking tribulus, that I did some research. I was very impressed but once I discovered it was unsuitable for women, I started to do a bit of research on every natural supplement out there which was said to increase muscle or improve performance etc.
The conclusion I've drawn is that ALL the products are a waste of money, apart from the two I've mentioned above. I'm just SO jealous that I can't take tribulus :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: Is there a vegan version of N.O. Xplode?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:32 am 
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I'm just SO jealous that I can't take tribulus :evil:


yeah, me too.
i wonder if there's anything natural that can increase T levels in women in a healthy way...

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 Post subject: Re: Is there a vegan version of N.O. Xplode?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:05 am 
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applehead wrote:
Ruz wrote:
I'm just SO jealous that I can't take tribulus :evil:


yeah, me too.
i wonder if there's anything natural that can increase T levels in women in a healthy way...

I thought tribulus was a plant?

i never used it though and i read in a bodybuilding mag it didn't do anything anyway.

Sleep, exercise and healthy eating and living (sun etc) would be the best thing.

I don't take n.o.xplode anymore.i used it a couple times and it was the most unnatural thing i've consumed since becoming vegan.

Green tea is the best.I use 2 tea bags pre workout.


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 Post subject: Re: Is there a vegan version of N.O. Xplode?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:08 am 
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xjohanx wrote:
There are lot's of vegan ones, I even think NO explode is vegan honestly but they all contain aspartame or some other artificial sweetner that will kill you.

Where are you Johan?

We clashed a lot and i was wrong most the time.

Please accept my apology.


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 Post subject: Re: Is there a vegan version of N.O. Xplode?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:10 pm 
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Cold Fission wrote:
applehead wrote:
Ruz wrote:
I'm just SO jealous that I can't take tribulus :evil:


yeah, me too.
i wonder if there's anything natural that can increase T levels in women in a healthy way...

I thought tribulus was a plant?

i never used it though and i read in a bodybuilding mag it didn't do anything anyway.


No..tribulus works! I downloaded some studies conducted by the Bulgarian government..they were pretty impressive. In men it has a stimulating action on the testes causing you to produce more sperm. It was studied mainly as an alternative to viagra and to help with infertility. In women it has a stimulating effect on the ovaries. It was studied as it could help with infertility or for post menopausal women..obviously for female bodybuilders its completely useless though as it lowers testosterone levels and increases oestrogen production. You should go into the myprotein.co.uk website and get onto the forum there and read what people have to say about trib. Pretty impressive and all the guys I know who have used it have had massive gains. The only downside is that it can give you acne and you have to cycle it..rather like steroids.
If you are thinking about buying it you need to make sure that its bulgarian tribulus as its the only one which has a proven effect as other strains of the plant dont have the same sapoins. The one they sell on myprotein is by far the best quality at the cheapest price I have ever seen..4 times cheaper than the best available here in Spain.
If you want more info I could dig around on my PC and see if I kept all the research I downloaded..or you could simply do a search on google..although it took me a long time to find any valuable research as so much is conducted by compaines who are trying to sell tribulus XD

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 Post subject: Re: N.O Xplode is vegan!Aspatame free!
PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:32 pm 
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I tried NO Xplode about a year ago. I hated the taste and it made my head feel like it exploded.

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 Post subject: Re: N.O Xplode is vegan!Aspatame free!
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Bumping this thread. Does anyone have a definitive answer to whether this is vegan?

The problem is, milk is listed in the ingredients. If this is just because it's made on a line that handles milk and is for allergies, that's not going to bother me. But the problem is if they start using milk, nothing's really going to change on the package. I can't find an email address and don't want to register on the BSN site just to ask.

Has anyone used this product for a full training cycle before?

I would be more tempted just to buy a tub of Vega Sport Optimizer but the price difference is vast.

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 Post subject: Re: N.O Xplode is vegan!Aspatame free!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:44 pm 
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chewybaws wrote:
Bumping this thread. Does anyone have a definitive answer to whether this is vegan?

The problem is, milk is listed in the ingredients. If this is just because it's made on a line that handles milk and is for allergies, that's not going to bother me. But the problem is if they start using milk, nothing's really going to change on the package. I can't find an email address and don't want to register on the BSN site just to ask.

Has anyone used this product for a full training cycle before?

I would be more tempted just to buy a tub of Vega Sport Optimizer but the price difference is vast.

I got some samples of a different preworkout energy powder called 1.M.R. (1 more rep) and it has no milk or animal ingredients in the ingredients.And its way better than N.O.Xplode imo.

After training i thought i was gonna passout though.I dont know if it was the powder itself or i trained too hard.Best workout in ages though.And you dont need much of the powder either.With noxplode i was taking 3 scoops after the first month and barely getting a rush.1mr scared me.Its liek a drug.


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